First off; Hooray for the two of you! I don't know if I'm insulting
one and praising the other by saying it, but from my ant perspective
you are both giants! :-)

If I understand you guys right, there is currently no perfect
solution. However, considering how easy it is to change things in TW,
I think a sufficient existing solution will do.

Måns parameter idea to auto genereate menu items is interesting  - but
I think there are so few menu items where it would be applied that
such a general approach might be a bit of an overkill, or am I missing
something? (Maybe you have some thoughts for the future, Måns?) I
should mention, however, that I'm reminded of the various
TreeViewMenu[1] variants that 'menuize' by tag.

Also note that as things evolve I think we'll want other 'level two
content' which may differ from menu item to menu item. (I mean,
considering the intended democratic nature of tworld, the content
there should be a consensus and the static "Current/Notes/Proposed"
may not hold.) (But I do love the concept of having things added
dynamically to the various menu levels simply by tagging.) BTW,
searching for why twv[2] doesn't work, maybe the space in the first
menu item, i.e "Get involved" messes up things?

Regarding Tobias popup [3] - do I get this right:
1) content is added by actual separate menu tiddlers
2) it requires manual CSS fiddling for proper width display

Any alternative routs we have missed? Surely the idea of a multi level
menu in (a horizontal) MainMenu must have been investigated earlier...
altho I'm not sure where to look. Maybe Wolfgangs ambitious menuflex
site[4] has something?

Thanks!

P.S I discovered something funny; the backstage slider in tworld
slides up *behind* the mainmenu! Take a look.

[1] http://twt-treeview-executive.tiddlyspot.com/
[2] http://twv.tiddlyspace.com/#template2
[3] http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/
[4] http://menuflex.tiddlyspot.com/




On Oct 12, 1:32 am, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Tobias> So, essentially, what you really want is to not only to be able to
> > specify a tiddler that is rendered into the popup but also to hand
> > down some parameters as you would when using transclusion with
> > (evaluated) parameters. Something that might look like...
>
> > <<popup "open this" template:"injected" tiddler:"SomeTid"
> > params:"%title% %modified%" >>
>
> > ...which, abstractly speaking, translates to: render <<tiddler
> > injected with: {{SomeTid.title}} {{SomeTid.modified}}>> into a popup
> > opened by a button called "open this", right?!?
>
> Hmm - I don't think I'm after getting popups for menuitems labelled
> "open this".....
>
> I would prefer if  the listtag generated MainMenubuttons would reflect
> whats inside each individual menubutton/item, -buttonlabel= 2'nd level
> tagged tiddlers i.e.
> 1'st level:
> MainMenu items= popupbuttons labelled 1 pr.  tiddler tagged with
> "MainTopic"
> 2'nd level:
> Each individual popup shows a list of tiddlers tagged with:
> popupbutton label i.e. the popup Showroom  shows a
> preformatted(configurable) list of links to tiddlers which include the
> title of tiddlers tagged with "Showroom" popup Blog shows a list of
> links to tiddlers which include the title of tiddlers tagged with Blog
> - etc ....
> example:
> **[[link| $1]]
> **[[link|foo$1]]
> **[[link|bar$1]]
> 3'rd level:(not really neccesary in this context- however the
> implementation might be optional, offering levels for autogenerating
> popupmenus   )
> Each listitem could be a more generic popupbutton only showing  a list
> of tiddlers which are tagged with listitemtitles - ...
>
> >1) Automagically fills the MainMenu with dropdown buttons labelled with 
> >titles tagged with i.e. MainTopic...
>
> or MainMenu or whatever ...>2) pops up a list of tiddlers tagged with 
> corresponding menulabel
>
>  .. as transcluded links - if a generated tiddlerlinktarget  doesn't
> exist, clicking the link will produce it...
>
> Hope this explains my line of thought ...
>
> @Tobias
> Slightly offtopic - I'm afraid ... however:
> I know I'm just dreaming here - I can't deliver one snippet of code
> myself -
> One of the things I've learned from using TW for a couple of years
> now, is that you can change your way of conceptual thinking by
> adapting methods delivered by tools already available - and I must say
> I have enjoyed this journey so far, getting wider horizons and new
> perspectives from "simple" yet powerfull tools delivered by the
> community and gifted programmers as yourself...
> Thanks a lot for all your great contributions so far Tobias!! - Please
> keep on doing what you do so well - both in design and plugin-
> development.... It's really inspiring to follow your progress -  I
> think I see a skyrocketing programmer :-)!!
>
> Sorry - Just had to express some gratitude... for some invaluable work
> for the  community and TW in general.
>
> Thanks !
>
> Måns Mårtensson

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