Congratulations on the babies. You'll soon be teaching your toddlers about tiddlers.
For interchange of richly structured documents, a JSON format would be quite useful, so I'd be interested to understand Pandoc's support better. Lots of people love Python, I think it makes a good choice. Best wishes Jeremy On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:14 AM, HansBKK <hans...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Tuesday, January 31, 2012 4:43:56 PM UTC+7, Jeremy Ruston wrote: >> >> > I thought I remember coming across a TW plugin that handled hard return >> > issues, doesn't that make use of <p> tags? >> >> As I've said before, I do plan to explore "fixing" the standard >> TiddlyWiki wikifier in TW5 so that it does emit the expected <p> tags. > > I was just recalling an "in the meantime" fix - I'm sure we'll find many > users will be using "old-school" TWs for quite some time even after TW5 > ships a stable release. . . > >> >> > The absolute ideal IMO would be a core TW architecture that allowed for >> > user >> > choice of internally-stored syntax, with or without appropriate >> > rendering >> > and input assistance. Zim's author is intending to head down that road >> > in >> > future. >> >> I think that's where TW5 is. You can store tiddlers in what ever type >> you like. The system looks for a parser that can convert each >> particular MIME type into HTML. So, you'll be able to, for instance, >> whip up a MarkDown parser (perhaps based on ShowDown), and then store > > excellent! > >> >> > Second best is export capability to one or more "standard" syntaxes >> > to support Txt2tags and/or Pandoc - I'm now leaning toward the latter, >> > so leading candidates are extended markdown or reST/Sphinx. >> >> For general, interoperable export I was thinking that HTML would be >> useful. > > For structured output, say DocBook as an extreme example, but anywhere you > might want things like standardized footnotes, bibliographic citations, > multiple end-matter hierarchical indexes etc. HTML just doesn't offer > semantically rich enough features. > > You'd have to create rigid SOP rules for users to follow for the HTML to be > consistent enough to be "upgrade converted" to the more structured formats > like AsciiDoc or Sphinx. Everything outputs *to* HTML, that's the easy part, > but going the other way is very difficult if you're dealing with anything > more than a flat "sea of tiddlers". > > Pandoc will work equally well with markdown+its own extensions and the > relevant subset of reST. It also uses json-based structures internally, and > can accept these directly as input, but I believe they're not fully > documented. > >> >> > Worst case is adding a "reader" for TW-specific syntax to Pandoc, which >> > will then be able to output to any of its dozen+ target output formats. In >> > which case a Pandoc "writer" for txt2tags and/or Asciidoc (which I believe >> > is in the dev version) would make things pretty complete. >> >> I imagine it might be useful if Pandoc were able to support TW5 wikitext. > > Definitely, especially if there were standardized representations for those > features that map to the meta-structures discussed above. > >> >> > My understanding is that these wouldn't be too hard for an experienced >> > programmer. If I need to learn to program, I'm not sure if Haskell's the >> > language to start with but they say most important is a relevant >> > real-world >> > project to motivate you. 8-) >> >> On those grounds it might be reasonable to learn JavaScript? > > I've read that because of its flexibility, JS isn't the best choice as a > first language, I was thinking Python? > > But to be honest I'll probably still be wishing I had the money > (=freedom/time) to go "back to school" on my deathbed, I'm over 50 and just > started a new family, two lovely babies. . . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
