Hi Vincent,

I found the conflicting plugin: YourSearchPlugin [1] from Udo
Borkowski (abego-software).
When TableEditor (v1.3.7) and YourSearchPlugin are both enabled
"autosave" does not work anymore.
With only TableEditor enabled or only YourSearchPlugin enabled
"autosave" does work as expected.
I made a Minimal Test Case [2].

Cheers,

Ton


[1] http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin
[2] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_137_YourSearch.html

On Sep 22, 7:17 pm, Vincent Yeh <qmo.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ton,
>
> On Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:55:48 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>
> > Hi Vincent,
>
> > The TableEditor (v1.3.6) works great but I found two things:
> > 1) At one time - used in a TW with many plugins - I got the 'overlay
> > problem': text positioned below the table is shifted to the top so the
> > table and text overlay.
>
> That could be the resiziong bug I found lately. I should have fixed it in
> v1.3.7. Are you still having this problem with the latest version?
>
>
>
> > I tried to pinpoint the problem by disabling plugins. After disabling
> > the first plugin the problem disappeared so I thought I found the
> > offending plugin. But after enabling the plugin again the problem did
> > not show up anymore!
> > Irreproducible problems are very frustrating. Sometimes opening (for
> > editing) the tiddler with overlay problems and thereafter canceling
> > editing restores a "good" display. I assume a rendering problem.
>
> I had such experiences myself a few times, but it all came back normal
> after relaunching the browser. I am guessing it could be the browser or
> some deeply hidden bug that I haven't found. Not sure about this yet.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > 2) In the same TW "autosave" does not work anymore when the
> > TableEditor is enabled.
> > I use "config.options.chkAutoSave = true;" in a "systemConfig" tagged
> > tiddler which works OK without the TableEditor; when the TableEditor
> > plugin is enabled autosave does not work anymore.
> > I tried "config.options.chkAutoSave : true" in SystemSettings but that
> > did not work either; no "autosave" anymore with TableEditor enabled.
> > Disabling TagSearchPlugin [1] by Tobias Beer and TiddlyFileImportr [2]
> > by Jon Robson (which both use "autoSaveChanges" as well) did not help
> > either.
> > I ended up using the ToggleTagPlugin [3] by Simon Baird as a
> > workaround. Now I can toggle the "systemConfig" tag to enable the
> > TableEditoronly when needed; when disabled "autosave" works as
> > expected.
>
> One possibility is that the chkTEditorManualSave option is interfering with
> the system autosave option. Maybe I should remove this option and just use
> the system option? Another possibility is the TableEditor is conflicting
> with some plugin that also hijacks the saveChanges() function. You can try
> to find one that does so and I'll try to find out what's going wrong.
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Ton
>
> > [1]http://tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com/#TagSearchPlugin
> > [2]http://repository.tiddlyspace.com/TiddlyFileImportr
> > [3]http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#ToggleTagPlugin
>
> Let's keep having fun!
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 21, 12:23 pm, Yakov <yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hello Vincent,
>
> > > sorry for long silence, got some major problems.. I think I'll return to
> > > consistent testing in several days.
>
> > > Ok, I added the archive with screenshots to this message. It's better to
> > > investigate why the site isn't visible, though.. Can you see anything at
> > > [1]?
>
> > > As for Android devices.. if you use TW on a phone, you probably should
> > try
> > > iTW [2] (AndTidWiki can generate a new one) or use at least 2 Eric's
> > > transclusions [3] to get more room. Or is there something aside menus
> > which
> > > bothers you?
>
> > > Best regards,
> > > Yakov.
>
> > > [1]http://yakovl.bplaced.net/
> > > [2]http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/
> > > [3]http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar%20ToggleLeftSidebar
>
> > > понедельник, 17 сентября 2012 г., 8:15:30 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh
> > > написал:
>
> > > > Yakov,
>
> > > > I keep getting an error saying "access forbidden" clicking the link
> > below.
> > > > Maybe we try another way? Or just a couple of screenshots here?
>
> > > > I tried AndTidWikky on my Android phone and did see some of the
> > features
> > > > working while others not, but the screen is just too small to do any
> > useful
> > > > test. I am guessing special tricks are needed for AndTidWikky? I'll
> > use a
> > > > larger one to test when I have a chance.
>
> > > > FF15 for Android refuses to install on my phone, and I haven't found
> > one
> > > > Vista 64 system nearby, so no way to try them myself yet.
>
> > > > Cheers
>
> > > > Vincent
>
> > > > On Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:10:03 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote:
>
> > > >> Hello Vincent,
>
> > > >> thanks for the update, now extra captions are not displayed in the
> > > >> mentioned browsers which is fine for me; on the other hand, Chrome
> > 21.0
> > > >> (latest) and Safari 5.0.3 still don't show the "E" button in tables
> > without
> > > >> a caption (OS: Vista x64); the same thing in AndTidWiki (which is
> > more
> > > >> painful for me). I guess those are WebKit browsers/app..
>
> > > >> A small note: for TableEditor--MIN it may be useful to hide the code
> > > >> using the following wrapper:
>
> > > >> /***
> > > >> [the header of the plugin, other visible things like Options]
> > > >> /%
> > > >> ***/
> > > >>      [code here]
> > > >> /***
> > > >> %/
> > > >> ***/
>
> > > >> As for transclusions, I haven't done extended tests, but found that
> > > >> <<tiddler ..>> macro gets an error if used with section which
> > contains a
> > > >> table:  <<tiddler [[This or another tiddler##a section with a
> > table]]>>.
> > > >> Simple transclusion test works: I put a table in one tiddler,
> > transcluded
> > > >> it into another, edited the table there, no errors, content of the
> > first
> > > >> tiddler is changed. The only note is if the first tiddler is opened
> > at the
> > > >> same time, its representation is not refreshed (the table is shown as
> > it
> > > >> was before editing).
>
> > > >> I also did a test with merged cells ("|>|one long cell|", "|one high
> > > >> cell|\n|~|") and it seems that everything works fine.
>
> > > >> Is it "cut-and-past the whole column to the one next" you are talking
> > > >>> about?
>
> > > >> If so then I'd rather just do the cut-and-past alone (not yet,
> > though).
> > > >>> If I am misunderstanding, please tell me more about it.
>
> > > >> I mean if a table has colomns A, B, C, D, shifting C to the left is
> > > >> changing the table so that it has A, C, B, D, and then C, A, B, D. It
> > is
> > > >> close to copy+paste, just means cutting/pasting of the whole colomn
> > > >> (instead of its content as it is done in office-like apps, so that
> > one
> > > >> needs to delete the colomn after cutting the content and create a new
> > > >> colomn before inserting the content). Less efforts for such manual
> > sorting
> > > >> would be nice.
>
> > > >> As for the behavior in AndTidWiki (it's an Android app which acts as
> > a
> > > >> TiddlySaver.jar), I made a bunch of screenshots [1]. Sorry, I haven't
> > > >> studied any tool which creates a photo gallery, so there are just
> > files at
> > > >> [1]; though, I made a zip file so that you can download them at once.
> > The
> > > >> sequence is approximately the same as I reported previously. Watch
> > the top
> > > >> table (two others are without names, so are not editable in
> > AndTidWiki),
> > > >> the names of the pictures say what is done before each screenshot is
> > taken.
>
> > > >> [1]http://yakovl.bplaced.net/materials/TW/table%20editor%20report/
>
> > >  table editor report.zip
> > > 1757KViewDownload

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