Hi Vincent;

Forgot to mention in the last post:
Tested with Win 7 & FF 15
The "autosave" problem was also found with Google Chrome 17 portable.
A Minimal Test Case with TableEditor did "autosave" correctly in FF.
There must be a conflicting plugin. I tried to disable the plugins
that use "autoSaveChanges" to no avail. There are about 20 plugins
left to try :-)

Cheers,

Ton

On Sep 21, 7:55 pm, TonG <ton.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Vincent,
>
> The TableEditor (v1.3.6) works great but I found two things:
> 1) At one time - used in a TW with many plugins - I got the 'overlay
> problem': text positioned below the table is shifted to the top so the
> table and text overlay.
> I tried to pinpoint the problem by disabling plugins. After disabling
> the first plugin the problem disappeared so I thought I found the
> offending plugin. But after enabling the plugin again the problem did
> not show up anymore!
> Irreproducible problems are very frustrating. Sometimes opening (for
> editing) the tiddler with overlay problems and thereafter canceling
> editing restores a "good" display. I assume a rendering problem.
> 2) In the same TW "autosave" does not work anymore when the
> TableEditor is enabled.
> I use "config.options.chkAutoSave = true;" in a "systemConfig" tagged
> tiddler which works OK without the TableEditor; when the TableEditor
> plugin is enabled autosave does not work anymore.
> I tried "config.options.chkAutoSave : true" in SystemSettings but that
> did not work either; no "autosave" anymore with TableEditor enabled.
> Disabling TagSearchPlugin [1] by Tobias Beer and TiddlyFileImportr [2]
> by Jon Robson (which both use "autoSaveChanges" as well) did not help
> either.
> I ended up using the ToggleTagPlugin [3] by Simon Baird as a
> workaround. Now I can toggle the "systemConfig" tag to enable the
> TableEditoronly when needed; when disabled "autosave" works as
> expected.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>
> [1]http://tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com/#TagSearchPlugin
> [2]http://repository.tiddlyspace.com/TiddlyFileImportr
> [3]http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#ToggleTagPlugin
>
> On Sep 21, 12:23 pm, Yakov <yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello Vincent,
>
> > sorry for long silence, got some major problems.. I think I'll return to
> > consistent testing in several days.
>
> > Ok, I added the archive with screenshots to this message. It's better to
> > investigate why the site isn't visible, though.. Can you see anything at
> > [1]?
>
> > As for Android devices.. if you use TW on a phone, you probably should try
> > iTW [2] (AndTidWiki can generate a new one) or use at least 2 Eric's
> > transclusions [3] to get more room. Or is there something aside menus which
> > bothers you?
>
> > Best regards,
> > Yakov.
>
> > [1]http://yakovl.bplaced.net/
> > [2]http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/
> > [3]http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar%20ToggleLeftSidebar
>
> > понедельник, 17 сентября 2012 г., 8:15:30 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh
> > написал:
>
> > > Yakov,
>
> > > I keep getting an error saying "access forbidden" clicking the link below.
> > > Maybe we try another way? Or just a couple of screenshots here?
>
> > > I tried AndTidWikky on my Android phone and did see some of the features
> > > working while others not, but the screen is just too small to do any 
> > > useful
> > > test. I am guessing special tricks are needed for AndTidWikky? I'll use a
> > > larger one to test when I have a chance.
>
> > > FF15 for Android refuses to install on my phone, and I haven't found one
> > > Vista 64 system nearby, so no way to try them myself yet.
>
> > > Cheers
>
> > > Vincent
>
> > > On Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:10:03 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote:
>
> > >> Hello Vincent,
>
> > >> thanks for the update, now extra captions are not displayed in the
> > >> mentioned browsers which is fine for me; on the other hand, Chrome 21.0
> > >> (latest) and Safari 5.0.3 still don't show the "E" button in tables 
> > >> without
> > >> a caption (OS: Vista x64); the same thing in AndTidWiki (which is more
> > >> painful for me). I guess those are WebKit browsers/app..
>
> > >> A small note: for TableEditor--MIN it may be useful to hide the code
> > >> using the following wrapper:
>
> > >> /***
> > >> [the header of the plugin, other visible things like Options]
> > >> /%
> > >> ***/
> > >>      [code here]
> > >> /***
> > >> %/
> > >> ***/
>
> > >> As for transclusions, I haven't done extended tests, but found that
> > >> <<tiddler ..>> macro gets an error if used with section which contains a
> > >> table:  <<tiddler [[This or another tiddler##a section with a table]]>>.
> > >> Simple transclusion test works: I put a table in one tiddler, transcluded
> > >> it into another, edited the table there, no errors, content of the first
> > >> tiddler is changed. The only note is if the first tiddler is opened at 
> > >> the
> > >> same time, its representation is not refreshed (the table is shown as it
> > >> was before editing).
>
> > >> I also did a test with merged cells ("|>|one long cell|", "|one high
> > >> cell|\n|~|") and it seems that everything works fine.
>
> > >> Is it "cut-and-past the whole column to the one next" you are talking
> > >>> about?
>
> > >> If so then I'd rather just do the cut-and-past alone (not yet, though).
> > >>> If I am misunderstanding, please tell me more about it.
>
> > >> I mean if a table has colomns A, B, C, D, shifting C to the left is
> > >> changing the table so that it has A, C, B, D, and then C, A, B, D. It is
> > >> close to copy+paste, just means cutting/pasting of the whole colomn
> > >> (instead of its content as it is done in office-like apps, so that one
> > >> needs to delete the colomn after cutting the content and create a new
> > >> colomn before inserting the content). Less efforts for such manual 
> > >> sorting
> > >> would be nice.
>
> > >> As for the behavior in AndTidWiki (it's an Android app which acts as a
> > >> TiddlySaver.jar), I made a bunch of screenshots [1]. Sorry, I haven't
> > >> studied any tool which creates a photo gallery, so there are just files 
> > >> at
> > >> [1]; though, I made a zip file so that you can download them at once. The
> > >> sequence is approximately the same as I reported previously. Watch the 
> > >> top
> > >> table (two others are without names, so are not editable in AndTidWiki),
> > >> the names of the pictures say what is done before each screenshot is 
> > >> taken.
>
> > >> [1]http://yakovl.bplaced.net/materials/TW/table%20editor%20report/
>
> >  table editor report.zip
> > 1757KViewDownload

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