Dumb Newbie question: Are tiddly pages not editable over a normal web connection and that's why you want to remake tiddlyspot via php? I ask as it seems a bit strange to needa webserver other than 'hey here's that HTML file.'
On Thursday, February 12, 2009 at 5:58:01 AM UTC-6, Daniel Baird wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've got an announcement, some rhetorical questions, and a couple of > REAL questions I'd love to hear answers to. If you get bored, please > scroll to the end where I ask 'em. > > The Announcement: > ================ > > Imagine if you could just download and unzip some PHP files, and > instantly have a tiddlyspot-type server running behind your corporate > firewall, on your school server, or just on the Mac Mini in the back > of your broom cupboard. > > That's the goal of a new project that we kicked off a couple of weeks ago. > > I've tried to anticipate some questions below... > > Q> What's tiddlyspot anyway? > > Simon and I have run a free TiddlyWiki host at tiddlyspot.com for > several years. Tiddlyspot makes it really easy to create and save > TiddlyWikis to the web, using BidiX's UploadPlugin and a smattering of > sweet, sweet Ruby goodness. Try it out at http://tiddlyspot.com if > you want to see how it works. > > Q> *We* kicked off a project? Who's *we*? > > Well, Simon and I have wanted to clean up and open source tiddlyspot's > server code for a while, but haven't really had time. Then recently > friend and colleague Robert (known locally as The Amazing Rob) > mentioned that he was looking for an open source project to get into. > Sha-bam! > > Q> Why PHP? > > Much as we love Ruby, we figure it's still a little dicey getting Ruby > code to work on free and low cost web hosts. PHP on the other hand > seems to be supported everywhere, and it's a major goal to make the > thing install and run with a minimum of messing about. So PHP it is. > > Q> Easy-to-deploy huh. Any other "major" goals? > > - Easy to deploy. Ideally setup-free -- unzip, then browse there. > - Easy to understand. TW goes in, TW goes out. I'd love to fix the > simultaneous edit problem, that's pretty confusing. Might be out of > scope here though :) > - Easy to create sites. Like tiddlyspot, or better. Plus support for > uploading an existing TW. > - Easy to enhance. We imagine fancy backup arrangements, printable > PDFs for your GTD lists, etc. might all exist as things you can just > dump into the addon directory. > - I can't think of any more, but we'll keep you posted... > > Q> What stage is it at? > > Early. Robert has the basic site creation and hosting working. Still > to come is the selection of site flavour, theming & branding, getting > UploadTiddler working and tested, site and server control panels, > fancy backups, and whatever other stuff comes up. > > Q> I've got some time to kill right now. Got something to look at? > > We don't have a working site to fiddle on yet, but the code's here: > http://github.com/brimstone4814/tiddly-speck/tree/master > > You don't need git to grab it; just click the 'download' button to get > the source as a zip. Dump it into an Apache directory and see what > happens when you hit index.html. > > Q> What's the volume of a pizza with radius of z, and depth of a? > > pi z z a (an old joke but a good one). > > > The Questions > ============= > > There's a few pressing issues I'd love some advice on. > > Licencing: > BSD? GPL? Maybe LGPL? I have a vague sense of the difference > between these, but I have no idea what the real ramifications are of > each. Will GPL get in the way of corporate use, even just > psychologically? And I'd like to allow some kind of plugin > arrangement that permits non-open source addons. Any advice? > > Naming: > Currently we're calling it TiddlySpeck, but actually I'd love to think > of a name that's not related to tiddlyspot, and maybe doesn't even > include the word "tiddly". Or is that blasphemous? > > > I'd love to hear your opinions. I expect Robert will be along in a > little bit to introduce himself. > > > Cheers > ;Daniel > > -- > Daniel Baird > I've tried going to the XHTML <bar /> a few times, but it's always closed. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/bc8d7abc-d6ea-4326-b28d-b9f1e5194226%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
