Thanks Andrew, Mat and Greg for all the replies. I'm obviously not the first person to ask this question, and I did try to search the forums first before asking, but I couldn't find anything that addressed just the state of the TOC, as Mat alludes to above.
I made the change (that Andrew linked to) in my dev wiki first, to see what would happen. I got a message saying... *You are about to edit a ShadowTiddler. Any changes will override the > default system making future upgrades non-trivial. Are you sure you want to > edit "$:/core/save/all"?* > So let me make sure I understand what this means. Whenever I edit a system tiddler (shadow tiddler?) I'm going to need to document what I've done, so that when a new version of TW is rolled out, I can go back through my list of personalisations and re-apply them to the latest version. Does that about sum it up? Sorry, but, WTF?! I shouldn't have to alter the whole underlying system just to make a simple interface change. I'm going to end up with a huge list of personalisations to my wiki, and have to manage it, curate it, and reapply each one with copy/paste whenever a new version of TW becomes available. It would be far simpler to just go ahead and personalise my own copy of TW 5.1.9 and never upgrade it again! I assume thats why I see so many older copies of TW floating around online still, because its easier to keep personalisations than to upgrade, is that about right? I may be over-reacting to this, I often do. I have no experience with upgrading TW yet, so please let me know that what I imagine from that edit warning is not as bad as it seems. *@Greg*: The link to Tobi's tiddler about States and Temporary Tiddlers <http://t5a.tiddlyspot.com/#Autocollaps%20TOC> comes with this dire warning: *Caution: Defining the wrong save-filter may have you unknowingly lose > data!* > As I'm still very new to all this, and don't really know the structure of the underlying TW system well, I'm probably better off avoiding that one for now. But thanks anyway Greg. And thanks *@Mat* for your wonderful feedback, which I have posted <https://plus.google.com/104174671305083801031/posts/cjT5o58db66> to the Google+ TiddlyWiki community <https://plus.google.com/communities/117285869700890736959>. I'm glad that my questions and observations are useful. Sorry if I seem like a grumpy old man sometimes, but that's me in real life, haha. That macrocall to TOC <http://tiddlywiki.com/#Example%20Table%20of%20Contents%3A%20Tabbed%20External> is going to be very handy, BTW. I'm currently using unordered lists on my tiddlers for linking to "sub-types", which of course are also listed in my TOC in the SideBar. While I'm building my knowledgebase wiki, having the static links on the tiddler is handy because I create the new tiddlers for the sub-types by clicking on redlinks (oh how I wish TW would identify missing pages with a red link, rather than italics, but I must remember that TW != MW). But once I have my wiki in a more complete state, I'll probably go back and make those static lists dynamic using the macrocall you linked to above. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e36cd389-f87e-4111-aa87-0c65551da7f4%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
