Danileo I agree. TW is NOT responsive design built in. I think its becoming an issue on real usage. More and more issues are arising over interface flex. Rightly.
I have been looking at mobile usage and trialing it. Its largely uninspiring. Whilst much effort is put into expanding TW function, very little goes into responsive design. Part of that is you need people who understand the design issues. Part of it is embracing that TW is slightly more than "my solution on my platform". That extra step is actually quite hard because the CSS possibilities have not been at the foreground enough. Best wishes Josiah On Monday, 26 September 2016 18:51:47 UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote: > > Hello, > > This is both a reflection, a touch of attention and a desperate call to > all the users that feels like me, if there is any. > > Three years ago when I first discovered tiddlywiki I found both, > TWClassing and TW5. I decided to go for TW5 because it looked much better > on my mobile, and that gave me a feeling of future-proof software. As > opposed to TWClassic, which remind me to the first mobile web experiences: > an unreadable bird view of a page that required to zoom and scroll all the > time. So, as I said, despite it's lacks and faults I go for tw 5.0.5 > > After three years things haven't evolved for mobile users, or at least not > in the good way. The only community that grows is that one that doesn't > care about mobile, which is presumably the same that didn't care about it > on TWClassic before, but now on TW5. The only issues that are discussed and > the new features that are implemented doesn't care about mobile, it doesn't > matter, it is just take for granted, what we have is good enough. > > I read this forum mostly from mobile, and when someone makes an > announcement, or posts a link to any new good stuff my first impression is > the one that I have from my phone. If I'm unable to use it comfortably on > mobile I usually close that tab and forget about it. > > In a world that is moving to "mobile first, forget about desktop focus on > mobile, mobile rules!" experiences, tiddlywiki community is moving on the > opposite direction. Twitter, Facebook and Github are examples of how doing > things well: If I add their page to my home screen I can't distinguish it > from a native app. > > Just to mention some examples, Jed Carty > <http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com/> has a wiki that seems to hate mobile > screens, Mat's magic <http://twaddle.tiddlyspot.com/#TWaddle:TWaddle> > seems to be restricted to desktop browsers, Cardo <http://cardo.wiki> > requires so much horizontal scroll that I forget about what was at the left > side when I reach the other side of the wiki. I fought to death with Felix > to convince him to provide an alternative way of displaying Tiddlymap's > graphs, because on his extra-extra wide screen it was just fine to put > everything on the sidebar. A couple of alerts is enough to fill the > entire screen <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1743>, > popups are used everywhere like they were a good idea, and the new search > mechanism on a popup is just *a bad joke*. Most of the users here don't > see any advantage on using NoteSelf because syncing an entire file of > *6MB* on their high bandwidth internet connections is not even > noticeable. And those are just some random examples on an entire sea of > issues for mobile users. > > I would ask to those tiddlywiki wizards that do not want to care about > mobile to totally disable their creations on mobile, because the lack of a > feature is better than a bad experience using it. Github for example > doesn't have all the features on their mobile version. > > Does anybody subscribe to any of the things that I said above? Am I the > only interested on using tiddlywiki on my mobile phone? I want to know this > because it maybe it will be easier to leave tiddlywiki and go with any of > the products that cares about mobile than fighting the entire community. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/419ccd77-c653-4052-8603-1235802a48a4%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
