In the extremely locked down corporate environment I work in, TiddlyWiki itself is technically okay because it is 'just an html file'. Node.js (node.exe) is not okay because it's not on the approved application list. Firefox is not okay unless there is a good business need for it (basically only the app testing folks and devs get it to make sure the web apps work for customers). Chrome (and IE) are pre-installed on the locked down desktop image.
Interestingly, Chrome Extensions from the chrome store are okay (at least the hey-you-were-naughty warning tool didn't yell at me). But google docs and gmail aren't okay. On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 12:26:13 PM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote: > > Ok, what if I would write a new script for node that would basically be a > static file server? When you type in localhost it would show you a list of > directories to choose from. Once you open one of those directories it would > show you all the files and folders in it and allow you to open any one that > you wanted. Now if you opened a TiddlyWiki Five file, it would detect that > and load a helper file that would pose as the TiddlyFox plugin and send the > saved file back to the server. The server would save this file into the > directory and even save a backup in some place of your choosing. > > In order to use NodeJS on Windows you have to be able to execute the > node.exe file that you can download from nodejs.org. It is not an > installation, it is the actual node executable. I don't know how other > operating systems are but they should be similar (well, maybe not MAC, I > don't know). But don't most computers run windows? 50% run windows 7 and > like another almost 40% run windows 10 if I remember right. In a corporate > environment you may not be able to always do this because of extremely > locked down environments, but it doesn't require any installation or > administrator password. In a corporate environment where you cannot do > that, I don't know if you would be allowed to install TiddlyChrome or > TiddlyFox plugins either. So we fall back to IE, which I am not familiar > with, but there again you may not be able to do much in extremely > restricted corporate environments. > > As far as doing this on mobile, it would be a lot easier to make an app > that can do this than it is for desktop browsers. Please check out > AndTidWiki if you're interested. > > Would that be an option? > > The charm of a single-file, no-install, runs-everywhere solution would be >> gone. > > > Is this single-file, no-install, runs-everywhere solution available in the > extremely restricted corporate environments that I am describing? You still > have read-everywhere, and you still have the download saver most times. > > Thoughts, > -Arlen > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:30 AM, <codacoder...@outlook.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> This. >> >> >> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 9:26:24 AM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote: >>> >>> TW on node.js doesn't serve images. The fact that node.js can serve >>> images is totally irrelevant until someone writes a version of TW on >>> node.js that does. >>> >>> The thing is, if you start having to run a server, you no longer have a >>> simple solution. In fact, you could run any of a half dozen wikis or >>> content managers which would all have true databases and virtually >>> unlimited size allowances. The charm of a single-file, no-install, >>> runs-everywhere solution would be gone. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 6:59:25 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote: >>>> >>>> Node serves images. Chrome apps might be able to as well if done right, >>>> but never tried. Any server-type solution will be able to serve images. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:49 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < >>>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Much of the world spends their computing times on tablets and smart >>>>> phones. Some models can run a terminal (mine can't) if you want to spend >>>>> a >>>>> lot of time fiddling with that sort of thing -- but by then you no longer >>>>> have a simple, easy to use turnkey solution. >>>>> >>>>> It still doesn't address the images problem which is a non-starter for >>>>> me. >>>>> >>>>> -- Mark >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 6:43:11 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is true, but on windows it is very easy to run a portable >>>>>> version, and may be on Linux as well, I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure that >>>>>> covers most of our users, though I realize it doesn't cover everyone. >>>>>> But >>>>>> isn't that already a problem with TiddlyFox and TiddlyChrome? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:14 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < >>>>>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If TW on node.js served up images and other files, that might be >>>>>>> almost acceptable. Of course, you would still have problems when away >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> your home node.js server. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 4:39:49 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If someone knew how to do it, they would have. My TiddlyChrome >>>>>>>> plugin is the easiest way that I know of for Google Chrome. One thing >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> have not explored is whether I can have the user select a folder and >>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>> edit any file in that folder. Other than that (which is a good option) >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> don't know of any way to save in Chrome. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, "Never say it can't be done. Someone might actually >>>>>>>> believe you." This is so true when it comes to technology. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now the best option I see outside of chrome would be to run a node >>>>>>>> store.js file in a certain folder and it would serve that folder on >>>>>>>> localhost and allow saving. That would work in any browser and would >>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>> fine in a localhost or local network environment. I haven't taken the >>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>> to put that together yet, but it is very possible. It would work >>>>>>>> identical >>>>>>>> to how my current https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-dropbox/ works, >>>>>>>> possibly and could also be configured to do automatic backups. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Those are my thoughts. >>>>>>>> -Arlen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never say it can't be done. Someone might actually believe you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 12:04 PM, @TiddlyTweeter < >>>>>>>> tiddly...@assays.tv> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Firefox looks like its chosen to die for a while. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Its userbase is shrinking month by month. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Its ALREADY a minority report. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In November this year its goes over to WebExtensions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> By that time how will it differ from Chrome with market share >>>>>>>>> already? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Would it be best if TiddlyWiki could have an OFFICIAL add-on to >>>>>>>>> save to at least one browser easily? 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