How do you get the TW html to your machine in the first place? Can you use the default download/save mechanism, or does the security block all downloads?
Have fun, Mark On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 11:47:20 AM UTC-7, Lost Admin wrote: > > In the extremely locked down corporate environment I work in, TiddlyWiki > itself is technically okay because it is 'just an html file'. Node.js > (node.exe) is not okay because it's not on the approved application list. > Firefox is not okay unless there is a good business need for it (basically > only the app testing folks and devs get it to make sure the web apps work > for customers). Chrome (and IE) are pre-installed on the locked down > desktop image. > > Interestingly, Chrome Extensions from the chrome store are okay (at least > the hey-you-were-naughty warning tool didn't yell at me). But google docs > and gmail aren't okay. > > On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 12:26:13 PM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote: >> >> Ok, what if I would write a new script for node that would basically be a >> static file server? When you type in localhost it would show you a list of >> directories to choose from. Once you open one of those directories it would >> show you all the files and folders in it and allow you to open any one that >> you wanted. Now if you opened a TiddlyWiki Five file, it would detect that >> and load a helper file that would pose as the TiddlyFox plugin and send the >> saved file back to the server. The server would save this file into the >> directory and even save a backup in some place of your choosing. >> >> In order to use NodeJS on Windows you have to be able to execute the >> node.exe file that you can download from nodejs.org. It is not an >> installation, it is the actual node executable. I don't know how other >> operating systems are but they should be similar (well, maybe not MAC, I >> don't know). But don't most computers run windows? 50% run windows 7 and >> like another almost 40% run windows 10 if I remember right. In a corporate >> environment you may not be able to always do this because of extremely >> locked down environments, but it doesn't require any installation or >> administrator password. In a corporate environment where you cannot do >> that, I don't know if you would be allowed to install TiddlyChrome or >> TiddlyFox plugins either. So we fall back to IE, which I am not familiar >> with, but there again you may not be able to do much in extremely >> restricted corporate environments. >> >> As far as doing this on mobile, it would be a lot easier to make an app >> that can do this than it is for desktop browsers. Please check out >> AndTidWiki if you're interested. >> >> Would that be an option? >> >> The charm of a single-file, no-install, runs-everywhere solution would be >>> gone. >> >> >> Is this single-file, no-install, runs-everywhere solution available in >> the extremely restricted corporate environments that I am describing? You >> still have read-everywhere, and you still have the download saver most >> times. >> >> Thoughts, >> -Arlen >> >> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:30 AM, <codacoder...@outlook.com> wrote: >> >>> This. >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 9:26:24 AM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote: >>>> >>>> TW on node.js doesn't serve images. The fact that node.js can serve >>>> images is totally irrelevant until someone writes a version of TW on >>>> node.js that does. >>>> >>>> The thing is, if you start having to run a server, you no longer have a >>>> simple solution. In fact, you could run any of a half dozen wikis or >>>> content managers which would all have true databases and virtually >>>> unlimited size allowances. The charm of a single-file, no-install, >>>> runs-everywhere solution would be gone. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 6:59:25 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Node serves images. Chrome apps might be able to as well if done >>>>> right, but never tried. Any server-type solution will be able to serve >>>>> images. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:49 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < >>>>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Much of the world spends their computing times on tablets and smart >>>>>> phones. Some models can run a terminal (mine can't) if you want to spend >>>>>> a >>>>>> lot of time fiddling with that sort of thing -- but by then you no >>>>>> longer >>>>>> have a simple, easy to use turnkey solution. >>>>>> >>>>>> It still doesn't address the images problem which is a non-starter >>>>>> for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Mark >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 6:43:11 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is true, but on windows it is very easy to run a portable >>>>>>> version, and may be on Linux as well, I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> covers most of our users, though I realize it doesn't cover everyone. >>>>>>> But >>>>>>> isn't that already a problem with TiddlyFox and TiddlyChrome? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:14 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < >>>>>>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If TW on node.js served up images and other files, that might be >>>>>>>> almost acceptable. Of course, you would still have problems when away >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> your home node.js server. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 4:39:49 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If someone knew how to do it, they would have. My TiddlyChrome >>>>>>>>> plugin is the easiest way that I know of for Google Chrome. One thing >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> have not explored is whether I can have the user select a folder and >>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>> edit any file in that folder. Other than that (which is a good >>>>>>>>> option) I >>>>>>>>> don't know of any way to save in Chrome. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> However, "Never say it can't be done. Someone might actually >>>>>>>>> believe you." This is so true when it comes to technology. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now the best option I see outside of chrome would be to run a node >>>>>>>>> store.js file in a certain folder and it would serve that folder on >>>>>>>>> localhost and allow saving. That would work in any browser and would >>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>> fine in a localhost or local network environment. I haven't taken the >>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>> to put that together yet, but it is very possible. It would work >>>>>>>>> identical >>>>>>>>> to how my current https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-dropbox/ works, >>>>>>>>> possibly and could also be configured to do automatic backups. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Those are my thoughts. >>>>>>>>> -Arlen >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Never say it can't be done. Someone might actually believe you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 12:04 PM, @TiddlyTweeter < >>>>>>>>> tiddly...@assays.tv> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Firefox looks like its chosen to die for a while. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Its userbase is shrinking month by month. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Its ALREADY a minority report. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In November this year its goes over to WebExtensions. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> By that time how will it differ from Chrome with market share >>>>>>>>>> already? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Would it be best if TiddlyWiki could have an OFFICIAL add-on to >>>>>>>>>> save to at least one browser easily? 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