Hi Arlen,

How do you imagine a service like this would be better than existing 
storage/hosting solutions? What problem are you trying to solve? (is it 
about backup, synchronisation, collaboration, hosting or a bit of each?).

Personally, I'm never going to use a service where "you would get charged 
storage plus all of the traffic" unless I'm contracting directly with an 
actual service provider. At the very least, I would say, you'd need to 
break pricing into bands with different levels of service. People have 
become accustomed to the basic tier of such services being free (as 
unrealistic as this may be).

Regards,
Richard

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 7:36:13 AM UTC+10, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Thanks everyone for the suggestions so far. Keep them coming, this gives 
> me ideas. 
>
> I don't know what kind of timeframe I'm looking at. It depends on my 
> schedule and everything.
>
> What I mean by pay as you go is that you pay for exactly what you use, so 
> if all you have is one thing - a little wiki to host one plug-in for other 
> people to download, - you would get charged storage plus all of the traffic 
> for your one little Wiki.
>
> If your Wiki is private, then obviously all the traffic would be just you. 
>
> Amazon web services has a pretty good model for this. Their prices are 
> very reasonable, and it appears that they have the tools for me to do it 
> with.
>
> I would probably lazy load everything besides the system tiddlers. Having 
> an offline cache like note self does would definitely help cut down on 
> bandwidth as well.
>
> Just thought I would address those now to clarify what I'm thinking. 
>
> These are all good suggestions, keep posting.
>
> - Arlen
>
> On Aug 8, 2017 11:28, "Mat" <matia...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>>
>>    - Something like the shut down TiddlySpace model (...or maybe that's 
>>    the same as the TiddlyWeb model?) with tiddlers as first class citizens 
>>    spanning across wikis so you can concoct TWs out of tiddlers in other 
>> TWs. 
>>    That was extremely cool and useful. 
>>    - But a big limitation with TiddlySpace was that it was limited to 
>>    that server so when it eventually shut down the connectedness between 
>>    (exported) wikis broke.  
>>    - ...so, for your service, other than export functionality to create 
>>    a single-file tw...
>>    - ...I'd also wish for some solution to export with intact 
>>    inter-tiddlwikiness.
>>    - *And the exporting solution must be without lock-in aspects, were 
>>    your service to shut down. No ransoms, and none of my darlings lost in 
>>    cyberspace.*
>>    - Private by default. Click to publish.. some parts of it!
>>    - Tiddler encryption.
>>    - myprettyurl.com ...no? ok, then  myprettyurl.yourprettydomain.com 
>>    ...but I also somehow want subspaces... myprettyurl/music , 
>> mytw/coding,etc 
>>    that are "to the left in the url string". (yeah, I did say "somehow").
>>    - VERY easy to make new TWs, even simpler than on TiddlySpot. Should 
>>    be doable: Click a button New TW and it gets a default url. Overwrite the 
>>    TW title and the url is replaced. It would be very valuable for everyone 
>> in 
>>    the community to zap up problem demos, minimal test cases etc.
>>    - Related; easy import (copy) of external TW without need for 
>>    middle-step downloads to local computer. Give url, checkbox if "import 
>>    here" or "import to new url", click import ---> Bam!  
>>    - Unlimited amount of TWs and tiddlers.
>>    - Separate non-wiki files... hm... I'd be OK with a file-size 
>>    restriction for non-wiki files.
>>    - Absolutely no "enter your phone number", "credit card required", 
>>    "personal details". Instead pay e.g via paypal or amazon account to get 
>> an 
>>    ID but then identify via a nick and password.
>>    - Publish to gallery / plugin store / ... maybe even a commercial 
>>    market place. You get a cut of each sale or perhaps special accounts have 
>>    selling rights.
>>    
>>
>> ...sky's the limit? Ok, throw in a better discussion forum than this 
>> place. Based on some wiki type software that centers around small chunks of 
>> text, if that exists ;-)
>>
>>
>> Pricing? TW is my cocaine so I guess I'm not the best at telling what is 
>> reasonable, but I'd be prepared to pay a decent sum if I believed in the 
>> service. But I'd want a one time sum, or perhaps once per 2 years. No 
>> annoying "renew or lose it" subscriptions. What does "pay as you go" mean? 
>> If it means a new payment for everything I do then it would definitely have 
>> to be well hidden and not remind me of it all the time. I hate seeing the 
>> taxi meter tick-tick-tick. But again, I want to feel 100% free to throw 
>> together a quick demo or to illustrate some problem, as is the case on 
>> TiddlySpot, but if it costed me money to help others then I wouldn't do 
>> it...
>>
>>
>> Really looking forward to this. Need a week? Two?
>>
>> <:-)
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