It's unfortunately true that developers often think in terms of state of 
the art technology.  It would be interesting to know what features caused 
the 4x increase in the core, despite dropping support for Jquery.

-- Mark

On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 8:44:07 AM UTC-8, vayira wrote:
>
> The bloat is to do with file size. The TW 2.8.1 with 294 tiddlers that I 
> have built up over years takes up only 585k, but an empty TW 5.1 uses 2M. 
> So I'm not going to migrate my day to day TW at all, but I am experimenting 
> with it for a new project, which I was thinking of putting online, but over 
> 2M makes it very slow to download. It is cool to use, but is a huge file. 
>
> On 25 December 2017 at 00:01, TonyM <anthony...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> Fyi
>>
>> No bloat in tw5 in my view,
>>
>> I maintain my twc in TiddlyDesktop and links open in the default browser.
>>
>> Rather than upgrade I am moving from a monolithic twc to multiple tw5s 
>> with a high degree of intergration. The tw5 wikis run in the latest FF with 
>> local host or IP address using TiddlyServer as host and directory to file 
>> and node JS implementations with no saving issues.
>>
>> In tw5 there are many features you needed plugins for in twc now in the 
>> core, there is also much more customisation in an empty tw5 than twc with 
>> plugins.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
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