JD,

I have also being working on a sophisticated "tiddler Viewer" like 
TWOutlier 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!msg/tiddlywiki/ol_3zvGPbk8/EdIG3awlBAAJ;context-place=forum/tiddlywiki
 
but with advanced handling of tiddlers in a TOC structure, this may be a 
good way to present tiddlers that the key use is to edit their text 
content. Add an Edit Text field to their ViewMode and they would never need 
to edit the test. However remember there is value in the draft.of process 
on the main editor.

I have being more interested in the ability to create custom forms from 
individual tiddlers and this means being able to insert edit fields macros 
in the wiki text so they work in view mode or in a custom field 
edit-fields-list so they just open below the tiddler text, I achieved this 
but did not publish because when I thought about it just providing edit 
text on a field is useful in many cases but what if it is used for a date, 
a unique ID, and icon or image link. So now I am building field templates 
that you can save as a prefix/fieldname that define how to handle the field 
when editing. So one based on an image allows image selection, or one based 
on a date, to stamp with now, or to select a date from a calendar. Of 
course you are free to edit this definition and make the edit-field as 
sophisticated as you desire.

I hope then to move on to a view-fields-list so you can display in 
appropriate format the fields (without edit mode or field edit). It Should 
be easy then to encode in a tiddler a mixture of view and edit fields that 
the user can interact with, without going into the stock standard edit 
tiddler mode.

I was playing with edit-fields support for the "text" field, and have not 
quite determined how to make it full width and have the number of rows as 
the content, like the normal edit text fields work, I may very well find 
the answer in TiddlyWikis edit template, which is the beauty of TiddlyWiki, 
almost everything you want to do is done in some way already in tiddlywiki.

Regrads
Tony

On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 2:19:27 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>
> Ooh, I am definitely talking about both. 
>
> I've implemented a rather barebones way of editing select fields of a 
> tiddler in view mode, in a wiki I use with other people in my work group. 
> The reason for needing such implementation being that someone in my group 
> doesn't want to interact with any other field other than the Text field, 
> and work-related ones. 
>
> I'm looking forward to testing your plugin, and seeing how it could be 
> applied to that specific work wiki :D
>
> On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 10:46:23 AM UTC+9, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> JD, 
>>
>> Are you talking about Marks dragon or the edit-fields or both?
>>
>> The edit-fields is working for me, but I know to make it east to adopt by 
>> others it needs a professional layer of documentation (Mohammads Reveal 
>> Gradually Macro sets a high standard).
>>
>> The edit fields allows you define field types, then fields and how to 
>> edit them such as dates etc... thus it is a tad more complex to document 
>> effectively, just as my previous "initial release" plugin MyMenus was. 
>>
>> To me it is essential we can can add fields from a list of possible 
>> fields to the edit-fields-list and then change the order, when editing 
>> fields, this is what I need to complete before it deserves listing.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 10:16:02 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow this is amazing and very useful! You should create a demo site for 
>>> this so it could be listed to the semi-official DynaList ! 
>>>
>>> Or maybe that can also just link to your post as a permalink?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 2:08:30 PM UTC+9, Mark S. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Tony,
>>>>
>>>> Here's a first pass at your original request. Make a global macro:
>>>>
>>>> \define dragoncopy(copyfield) 
>>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/fields/$(currentTiddler)$" fieldname=
>>>> """$copyfield$""" fieldvalue={{!!$copyfield$}}/>
>>>> \end
>>>> \define dragonfield(field)
>>>> <$draggable tiddler="$:/fields/$(currentTiddler)$" 
>>>> startactions=<<dragoncopy 
>>>> "$field$">>>{{!!$field$}}</$draggable>
>>>> \end
>>>> \define dragondrop3(tid,fieldname)
>>>> <$action-setfield $field="$fieldname$" $value={{$tid$!!fieldvalue}}/>
>>>> \end
>>>> \define dragondrop2(tid)
>>>> <$macrocall $name=dragondrop3 tid="$tid$" fieldname={{$tid$!!fieldname
>>>> }}/>
>>>> \end
>>>> \define dragondrop() 
>>>> <$macrocall $name="dragondrop2" tid=<<actionTiddler>>/>
>>>> \end
>>>> \define dragonzone(label)
>>>> <$droppable actions=<<dragondrop>>>$label$</$droppable>
>>>> \end
>>>>
>>>> Invoke the drag object like this:
>>>>
>>>> <<dragonfield "field1">>
>>>>
>>>> and in another tiddler put the drop zone like this:
>>>>
>>>> <<dragonzone "Drop Here!">>
>>>>
>>>> Have fun
>>>> -- Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:49:49 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for this suggestion. The irony is I want to build this 
>>>>> "feature" to allow reordering through dragging values in a field, as part 
>>>>> of a tool, that allows you to edit-fields in the tiddler view mode, which 
>>>>> itself demands this edit-fields from another tiddler approach.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am yet to develop a systematic way to do this, and until I do it 
>>>>> seems hard to get my head around it. 
>>>>>
>>>>> This is in fact the motivation for this edit-fields tools solution, 
>>>>> because I am sick of having to wrap my head around bespoke solutions to 
>>>>> edit-fields in the current tiddler, which for many is the most likely 
>>>>> place 
>>>>> they want to edit-fields. 
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a gap in TiddlyWiki at the moment I raised a GitHub issue 
>>>>> <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3350>
>>>>>
>>>>> I also created a collaborative document in Yammer 
>>>>> <https://www.yammer.com/tiddlywiki/#/files/141096709> 
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> TOny
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 3:23:25 PM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I see how this could work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the draggable widget, use a corresponding (probably system 
>>>>>> tiddler) to hold the value. Use the startactions attribute to assign the 
>>>>>> field.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <$draggable tiddler="$:/field1" startaction=<<macro that copies 
>>>>>> field1 into $:/field1!!value>>{{!!field1}}</$draggable>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then in the droppable widget, use the actions attribute to grab the 
>>>>>> value from $(actionTiddler)$!!value and save it to the field 
>>>>>> corresponding 
>>>>>> to the dropzone. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you just want one dropzone that handles multiple fields, then you 
>>>>>> could have the draggable widget also store the field name in a fieldname 
>>>>>> field and then the droppable can also fetch the destination from 
>>>>>> $(actionTiddler)$!!fieldname.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once you have the draggable macro working, then you can make as many 
>>>>>> field/zones as you want with <<dragfield field1>>, <<dragfield field2>> 
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>> -- Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 8:35:42 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am building a button to allow the dragging of values from a fields 
>>>>>>> values in a tiddler.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking through all the draggable widgets and use on buttons etc... 
>>>>>>> I can only see reference to tiddlers, not parts there of.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can any one tell me how to specify a fields content as the payload 
>>>>>>> or tell me a direction I could take.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - A tool or code example exists?
>>>>>>>    - Clone and rework an existing widget?
>>>>>>>    - Use CSS/Html?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will also be looking to find a way to drop field contents on a 
>>>>>>> field where it erases the existing content to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will be turning this into a reusable solution I will share.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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