Just to add another point about opportunity cost — if we were going to go to 
the trouble of setting up and operating a custom service for the TiddlyWiki 
community, then my first priority would not in fact be discussions, it would be 
to set up a proper plugin library that allowed easy third party submissions 
without requiring knowledge of GitHub.

“Plugin library” wouldn’t be a great description — it would be a repository of 
user uploaded plugins, snippets, tagged links, hints, etc. Ideally people would 
be able to use an API to post to the library directly from their own wikis. 

( I am not suggesting that we shouldn’t replace Google Groups with something 
else, just that if it’s going to be DIY then I think there might be higher 
priorities for our limited reserve of DIY skills).

There have been discussions today about whether the logo is holding TiddlyWiki 
back,  and now whether Google Groups is holding TiddlyWiki back. I can 
understand why both these topics are being discussed because they address daily 
irritations for many people. But, stepping back, I question whether these are 
the most important threats or opportunities facing us.

Best wishes

Jeremy


> On 22 Aug 2018, at 12:09, Jeremy Ruston <jeremy.rus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sylvain
> 
>> I run the Discourse French Community Forum since 2015, so yes we can :)
> 
> Indeed, it’s a very useful experiment and I’ve been watching with interest.
> 
>> I've transfert it in new instance twice and thanks to the backup fonction of 
>> Discourse, it's really easy. You have just to install a new one and import 
>> the last automatic backup.
> 
> It’s not so much that there be a technical mechanism for backups to be taken, 
> we need a failsafe operating procedure whereby backups are taken and verified 
> without relying entirely on the project team.
> 
>> Yes, there is regular new version, and it take little time to check server 
>> and ssh it.
> 
>> Also it's OK with french audience since there is few traffic. If we do 
>> worldwide, we need a paid account I think for email notification (even more 
>> if we configure Discourse to reply post directly from mail like GG).
>> 
>> About spam and abuse, I'm really surprising about Discourse ! It's really 
>> impressive.
> 
> Discourse does seem to be the most widely used of the available 
> off-the-shelf, open source replacements for Google Groups. 
> 
> I’d certainly want the ability to work via email as we can with Google 
> Groups. (One of the reasons that I like this feature is that it means that I 
> have a complete, independent backup of all posts since 2005 that is easily 
> searchable).
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Sylvain
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