Hey TonyM, You are always gracious. Thank you. My 12yo daughter didn't see your post until it was bedtime, and I don't want to leave you hanging. She is trying to build a tool for me as part of her CS subject in school. She's trying to make a GUI search tool which can construct arbitrarily long filters. We're still brainstorming and just trying to make a prototype. The gist of it can be found here:
https://philosopher.life/#Search%20of%20h0p3:%5B%5BSearch%20of%20h0p3%5D%5D The goal is to have a graphical tool for incrementally constructing an arbitrary number of atomic and complex sentences (built from atomic and other complex sentences using drop-down menus that include the previously constructed sentences). The final complex sentence will contain the main connective and will be the final filter for the search. Writing several complex filters back-to-back is labor intensive (some people who use my wiki cannot write them at all, but they know enough First Order Logic they could use a graphical tool), and I want to abstract away as much as I can. Performance matters to me here too. My wiki is fairly large (now pushing ~22MB of pure text in ~7k tiddlers), and I think it will only continue to grow year after year. There are certain kinds of filter-based tools which do not work on my wiki; it's simply too big. Presumably, this tool will also be used to wrap other search tools which I otherwise couldn't afford to use without complex filters first narrowing down the search space. There may be multiple ways to do this. We may even be wrong about what is possible or worthwhile here. We could certainly benefit from your expertise. Please advise us. What are your thoughts and what direction do you think we should go? Sincerely, h0p3 On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 5:54:44 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote: > > Swicky, > > I am sure it would be possible to apply an unknown number of filters in > a filter search. > > I think there would be more value in explaining what you want to do, than > asking questions halfway through your current attempt to answer these > questions. > > There are a number of ways to concatenate text of any type into a variable > which you can then use in a filter and other places. Of course the order is > important in filters. > > Similarly you can use nested <$list widgets to separate the "problem" into > a number of filter statements rather than trying to force many into one. > The trick is to use the variable=variablename parameter of one list widget > as the "input" "[<variablename>... to the next List widget, unless you > always refer to current Tiddler and do not use the variable parameter. > > The reality however is, what are these filter meant to achieve?, because > once experienced with filter's there is a lot that can be done with "smart" > filters". Perhaps you do not need to concatenate these filters as you > think. > > Why are your filters unknown in number and what are they trying to find. > > Regards > Tony > > > > > On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 6:19:44 AM UTC+11, Swicky wrote: >> >> I'm trying to use an unknown number of filters in a filter search. I can, >> so far, hardcode transclusions of two or more tiddlers. So, if tiddler A has >> [all[]] in it, and tiddler B has +[tag[asdf]] in it, transcluding into >> filter search shows everything that's tagged asdf.. but I want to do >> this for any number of filters. >> >> At the moment, I'm thinking of two ideas, but I'm not quite sure about >> them: >> >> - Use tagged tiddlers - I could make something like a "new journal >> here" button, which would make a new tiddler tagged "filter" (or >> something). Then, just transclude the text field of every tiddler tagged >> "filter". >> - Use a field - I could also make a completely different "new" >> button, that adds a filter to a field, and transclude the entire field. >> >> Of course, I might be thinking about this entirely wrong. Maybe >> Tiddlywiki is the wrong tool for this job. If it is, then I need something >> else that can work in the wiki. Any ideas? >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/8a1fe9c4-850c-49ee-8e63-f206c3e5714b%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
