On Sunday, 6 January 2019 12:05:02 UTC+1, tony wrote:
>
> On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 1:25:19 PM UTC-8, Joe Armstrong wrote:
>>
>>
>> It seems to me you can come a long way with tags and filter operations 
>> over tags. 
>>
>
> Indeed! That is why your re-implementation of Chandler is a breath of 
> fresh air.
>
> My needs are simple and expedient. I've moved back to analog with the joys 
> of a fountain pen and paper to more rapidly capture daily tasks.
>

Yes :-)

As regards the automation of simple tasks I've been doing some experiments.

I had some tiddlers tagged 'draft' and 'final' then I made a button to 
change draft to final -
the problem was that now I could do this operation too quickly - in order 
to change draft to
final I needed to read what I had written and *think* - the *deliberate* 
act of adding a new tag and 
removing an old one slowed things down. 

Automating this meant I could do the operation faster than
I could think - also automation added a layer of unnecessary complication - 
the power of the system
came from the filter operations over tags and not the ability to automate 
tag manipulation.

Deciding how much to automate is a very tricky problem and needs several 
rounds of prototyping
to get it right.

Personally I favor the idea of a minimal viable program (see
https://joearms.github.io/#2014-06-25%20Minimal%20Viable%20Programs)

I'll have to implement the ticket system I described above in the TW :-)

Cheers

/Joe

 
 

>  
> I still believe in a simple hyperlinked plain CamelCased wiki 
> <http://wiki.c2.com/> as a repository for my stuff not as a Jira or Trax 
> replacement.  
>
> For me, not every wiki entry is/needs the UI widget baggage polluting the 
> text area since the wiki is not the end product, but a means to externalize 
> memory in plain text.
>
> If tasks and projects are important enough I add them to my TiddlyWiki and 
> then archive to VimWiki <https://github.com/vimwiki/vimwiki> which is 
> better cross platform.
>
> Plus I'm intellectually too impatient and lazy to learn more TiddlyWiki 
> tinkering. I'm still learning the command line.
>
> Too much friction leads me to abandonment. [1] 
>
> Chandler provides the convenience of separating actionable items from rest 
> of the wiki. This is why a simple semantic tag, 'chandler' is so powerful. 
> It separates my wiki into actionable and not actionable stuff much like 
> sparse trees and agenda in OrgMode <https://orgmode.org/> 
>  
>
>> So what does your new ChandlerDone look like? - I'm curious
>>
>
> Chandler's dashboard reminds me of Korsakov's LinearHomeoscope 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semyon_Korsakov#Inventions>  where adding 
> another Archive 'pin' to ChandlerDone 'search'
>
> <$button>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param="archive"/>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-tag" $param="done"/>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-tag" $param="chandler"/>
> {{$:/core/images/chevron-left}}archive
> </$button>
>
> results in returning the done actionable items back into the broader wiki. 
>
> Essentially in GTD <https://gettingthingsdone.com/> speak back to 
> supporting notes.
>
> And what of tiddlers that need to go back to the Chandler dashboard, like 
> say recurring action items?
>
> We can retag with 'chandler' and 'now'
>
> I added a ChandlerizeButton tagged with 
> $:/tags/ViewToolbar
>
> as outlined in Customise TiddlyWiki  
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Page%20and%20tiddler%20layout%20customisation>
>
> <$fieldmangler>
> <$button>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-tag" $param="archive"/>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param="chandler"/>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param="now"/>
> {{$:/core/images/star-filled}}
> </$button>
> </$fieldmangler>
>
> and added its button title,
> {{ChandlerizeButton}}
>
> to position it accordingly in the ViewToolbar
>
> TiddlyWiki's powerful search will recall past archived projects and tasks 
> and I click the star ChandlerizeButton to add it back to the Chandler 
> dashboard set to my Home button.
>
> This allows simple movement of entries in and out of Chandler completing 
> the triage loop and system for me. 
>
> Since there is date stamping [2] for plain text future proofing, a 
> calendar is extra frosting! 
>
> Thanks again, Joe
>
> Best,
> tony
>
> [1] The TiddlyWiki Classic (TWC) past was glorious and littered with 
> TiddlyTasks TogglyTagging siglets CycleTags 
> <http://coloredlinks.tiddlyspot.com/#CycleTags> and endless tasting of 
> all this generous group has to offer. Eric L Shulman's TiddlyTools 
> <http://tiddlytools.com/> was a fount of tinkering tools, but with great 
> power, comes great responsibility.
>
> Imagine having to maintain this in 5, 10, 20 years?
>
> Over time I found the need to switch back to simplicity like evil org-mode 
> adding deft <https://jblevins.org/projects/deft/> then finally settled on 
> VimWiki <https://github.com/vimwiki/vimwiki>. Investing in time tested 
> tools like bash, emacs and vim has been fruitful plus CodeMirror bindings 
> in TiddlyWiki for vim and emacs means old tricks still work for this old 
> dog.
>
> [2]  I like literal hard coding for future proofing thanks to Riz's date 
> stamp button 
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/UHt6GsMpyAQ/USFJxw68AQAJ> on 
> my Editor toolbar, I can log entries and recall with simple search inside 
> or outside of TiddlyWiki
>

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