Hi! Wow, so that means the data really is lost then :(
It's a great feeling to confirm that you haven't imagined things isn't it? :D -jd On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 3:18:58 AM UTC+9, passingby wrote: > > Hello JD, > > WOW. WE FOUND IT!! > > Yes! I knew that I did save and I was not imagining anything. > > THANK YOU. I have attached a screenshot from chrome's download's page. > > > [image: TW Saving Failed.PNG] > > > You know what, this only proves an old adage from my native language. It > means something like, if you have a problem, go to your rooftop and shout > it out, somebody would have an answer to your problem. And this is what > happened here.I reached out and found a solution. Ancients were right. > Thank you JD. > > > > On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 4:41:10 AM UTC-7, JD wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I love that we are now on different realities because of this problem, >> which has also happened to me... But maybe your problem might really have >> been alien in nature? >> >> I also use the download saver method, overwriting the same file and then >> once in a while saving to a backup location. All of this on Google Drive, >> too, like you. >> >> And you know what, sometimes Google Drive does this thing where it looks >> like it has saved the file... until you look closely at the bottom bar of >> the browser where it says "Failed - Insufficient permissions". Trouble with >> this is you have to delete the file, wait for the deletion to sync and then >> re-save. Mendokusai! Most worrying is, it looks exactly as if the file >> actually saved. >> >> [image: Untitled.png] >> >> Maybe this is what happened? Well anyway, my condolences to your lost >> data. >> >> -jd >> >> >> On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 12:24:37 PM UTC+9, passingby wrote: >>> >>> Thank you for your input. >>> The TW was a fresh one which I downloaded today in the morning. The >>> clocks were already 'spring ahead' on my laptop on sunday (should have, >>> because I have on internet). So I dunno. >>> >>> Maybe I am just dreaming things. I suspected that maybe instead of >>> 'Save' I have been hitting 'Cancel' all the time. But its really hard to >>> accept that. Or maybe I did not save at all and I am not sleeping well. >>> >>> Sometimes I deeply suspect the nature of reality. I suspect that there >>> is no objective reality and that world does not exist outside of our mind. >>> But if the world of our mind does exist, then in that mind I DID save the >>> file, so it should be there now. I don't know. >>> >>> >>> On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 8:12:48 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote: >>>> >>>> Wait, 5pm *PST*? That's not right. But it got me thinking. >>>> >>>> I suspect that the problem is an imperfect storm of GD and DST. Are >>>> you continuously connected to the net? Did your laptop automatically >>>> update the time over the weekend? Did you use the laptop over the weekend? >>>> I'm thinking that when you first started writing to the disk it did so >>>> with a timestamp that was an hour behind. GD then thought the file in the >>>> cloud was newer. So GD wrote over your file. Unless you double-checked the >>>> timestamp yourself and/or reloaded the TW file, you wouldn't know that it >>>> had happened. >>>> >>>> That's my theory any way. Some variety of that. >>>> >>>> Well, hopefully it won't happen again for another 10 years. Or at >>>> least until Oct. 26. >>>> >>>> -- Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 7:23:07 PM UTC-7, passingby wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There is a first time for everything. I lost data worth a few hours >>>>> today. Its not the end of the world but I am at my wits end as to how it >>>>> happened. I am sharing this to find out if you have any strange >>>>> explanations or if it has happened to you like this ever. >>>>> Here are the facts of the case: >>>>> >>>>> 1. I am on windows 10, chrome browser which I just checked, is >>>>> up-to-date. >>>>> 2. I was using the default saver, and I was over writing my file on >>>>> the disk. >>>>> 3. The file was physically located in Google drive folder, which is in >>>>> sync all the time >>>>> 4. I had been making notes since morning and periodically I pressed >>>>> the save button and overwrote the local file. >>>>> 5. I remember the dialog box warning for overwriting coming up, and I >>>>> saying yes to it. I remember the sound of the warning too. (this makes me >>>>> feel sure that I did save my file a couple of times at least) >>>>> 6. At around 5pm PST, I closed the browser and shut down my laptop >>>>> because my brain was fatigued and I thought I should move around a bit >>>>> 7. I came back to the room after about half an hour and started my >>>>> laptop. >>>>> 8. When I opened my TW it had only one tiddler in it and that was the >>>>> very first one from early afternoon. No other tiddlers were there. >>>>> 9. I checked the local file time stamp and it had 12.30pm ! >>>>> 10. I was dumbfounded! I went to my google drive on web and check the >>>>> file version. There were none after 12.30pm! >>>>> 11. I searched my chrome history to see if I accidentally was working >>>>> on any other TW simultaneously with a similar name. Nope, nothing. >>>>> 12. I searched my windows machine to see if I could find any local >>>>> file I worked on. None. >>>>> >>>>> So what happened? The only explanation is that I did not save at all. >>>>> This I am not ready to accept. I definitely saved a couple of times. But >>>>> timestamp on my file as well as google driver version time says last >>>>> modification was 12.30 pm. This is very strange. >>>>> At one time during my workflow I pulled out the TW tab from my chrome >>>>> and made it into separate window. And about an hour later I merged all >>>>> the >>>>> tabs back. I do not know, but I am suspecting maybe that splitting and >>>>> merging did something. >>>>> >>>>> Well, the data was lost. That's okay. >>>>> >>>>> Assuming that I did press the save button and followed the process, is >>>>> it in any way possible that Chrome did not overwrite the local file? >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/90d3d27b-36c5-437a-b172-a920f1d2631d%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
