Hi Bob:

How about just wrapping the aluminum block in aluminum foil with the shiny side out. Then wrap the Styrofoam cube with the shiny side in before putting it in the aluminum box?

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com


Bob Camp wrote:
Hi

Since styrofoam is being rated as a building insulation, it's reasonable to 
believe that the material on both sides is up around 1. I highly doubt that 
somebody tossing styrofoam in walls is going to add a radiation factor ...

In our application we're talking about a metal block inside a metal enclosure, 
polishing the surfaces could drop the emissivity by>10X.  If the budget allows, 
you could gold plate the surfaces in addition to polishing them .....

Bob


On Mar 10, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Bruce Griffiths wrote:

Oops forgot a factor of 4
Radiative heat transfer for surface with an emissivity of 1 at 300K is about 
612uW/square cm/degree C
which is equivalent to about 25mm of styrofoam.

Which raises the question what's the emissivity of the isothermal surface used 
when measuring the thermal resistance of a slab of styrofoam?

Bruce

Bruce Griffiths wrote:
Radiative heat transfer (for a surface with an emissivity of 1) is around 
150uW/square cm /degreeC at 300K.
That's equivalent to about 10cm of styrofoam.

It seems unlikely that the radiative heat transfer component is included in the 
thermal resistance rating for Styrofoam.

The radiative component is independent of insulation thickness where the 
insulation doesnt absorb in the 10-30um infrared region.

Adding carbon black to the foam appears to increase the thermal resistance of 
25mm thick foam by about 10%.

Bruce

Bob Camp wrote:
Hi

That raises the interesting question of weather radiant transfer is already included 
in the rated thermal resistance. My guess is that the 8" of foam is enough to 
cover any radiation issues and still get you above 20 C / W.

Since you are probably starting with 1 or 2" slabs, including the aluminum foil 
would be pretty easy. It can't hurt and it might help.

Bob

On Mar 10, 2010, at 7:29 PM, Neville Michie wrote:

I have been wondering about achieving the rated thermal resistance from plastic 
foam,
the problem being that radiant transmission may be very strong through the foam.
What happens if you interleave concentric sheets of foam plastic with aluminium 
foil? (taking care to keep the foil
on isothermal surfaces)
Will this stop the radiant transfer and leave only the thermal conduction of 
the plastic foam?
cheers, Neville Michie

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