I there was me thinking that we invented RADAR...... Rob (in UK) Kimberley
-----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of David McGaw Sent: 20 December 2010 8:49 PM To: j...@quik.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran? As written in Wikipedia and as I have always understood: "The term RADAR was coined in 1940 by the [1]U.S. Navy as an [2]acronym for radio detection and ranging." David At 01:04 PM 12/20/2010, you wrote: IMO this trend is a two edged sword: I don't like to see the historical aspect of the name lost by it becomming a lower-case noun. OTOH, it's been said that the ultimate tribute in Physics is to become "part of the furniture", like Newton's or Maxwell's Laws. FWIW, -John =============== > The Oxford dictionary has "radar", "loran" and "scuba" all listed in lower > case. > > Also according to them "radar" never was an acronym. It is a coined > word. Technically to be an acronym the it must be spelled by the > first letter of several other words. "SCUBA" is an acronym but > "scuba" is now a common English word that has displaced the old 1950's > vintage "SCUBA" in modern usage. But "radar" was never an acronym. > > The Oxford English Dictionary takes the view that the English > language changes with time. You can disagree. Many people do and > claim English has fixed rules that never change but if you do then you > will have to pick a date for when it was "correct" and then explain > how it could be incorrect before that date. > > > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:07 AM, paul swed <paulsw...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Indeed. But thats the way it goes. >> >> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 12:52 PM, J. Forster <j...@quik.com> wrote: >> >>> There ain't no such thing as Loran. It's LORAN, just like RADAR. >>> >>> They are BOTH acronyms. >>> >>> -John >>> >>> ================= >>> >>> >>> > There never was a Loran receiver with a keypad. I am certain he >>> meant >>> > Loran C. Loran is (was) the common name for the service... But then, >>> > you already knew that, and were just trying to stir things up. >>> > >>> > -Chuck Harris >>> > >>> > Max Robinson wrote: >>> >> He didn't say Loran C he said Loran. That is the old system that >>> used >>> >> to operate just above the AM broadcast band and took away most of >>> the >>> >> 160 meter ham band. That hasn't been around for decades. I don't >>> think >>> >> there is a version of it operating anywhere in the world. >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> > To unsubscribe, go to >>> > [3]https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> > and follow the instructions there. >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to >>> [4]https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> [5]https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > > > > -- > ===== > Chris Albertson > Redondo Beach, California > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > [6]https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to [7]https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. References 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Navy 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym_and_initialism 3. https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts 4. https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts 5. https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts 6. https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts 7. https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
