Hi Rob no we invented "RDF" (or Radio Location)and they called it Radar :-)) Alan G3NYK
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Kimberley" <r...@timing-consultants.com> To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'" <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran? > I there was me thinking that we invented RADAR...... > > Rob (in UK) Kimberley > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On > Behalf Of David McGaw > Sent: 20 December 2010 8:49 PM > To: j...@quik.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran? > > As written in Wikipedia and as I have always understood: "The term > RADAR was coined in 1940 by the [1]U.S. Navy as an [2]acronym for radio > detection and ranging." > David > At 01:04 PM 12/20/2010, you wrote: > > IMO this trend is a two edged sword: > I don't like to see the historical aspect of the name lost by it > becomming > a lower-case noun. > OTOH, it's been said that the ultimate tribute in Physics is to > become > "part of the furniture", like Newton's or Maxwell's Laws. > FWIW, > -John > =============== > > The Oxford dictionary has "radar", "loran" and "scuba" all listed > in lower > > case. > > > > Also according to them "radar" never was an acronym. It is a > coined > > word. Technically to be an acronym the it must be spelled by the > > first letter of several other words. "SCUBA" is an acronym but > > "scuba" is now a common English word that has displaced the old > 1950's > > vintage "SCUBA" in modern usage. But "radar" was never an > acronym. > > > > The Oxford English Dictionary takes the view that the English > > language changes with time. You can disagree. Many people do > and > > claim English has fixed rules that never change but if you do then > you > > will have to pick a date for when it was "correct" and then > explain > > how it could be incorrect before that date. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:07 AM, paul swed <paulsw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Indeed. But thats the way it goes. > >> > >> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 12:52 PM, J. Forster <j...@quik.com> > wrote: > >> > >>> There ain't no such thing as Loran. It's LORAN, just like RADAR. > >>> > >>> They are BOTH acronyms. > >>> > >>> -John > >>> > >>> ================= > >>> > >>> > >>> > There never was a Loran receiver with a keypad. I am certain > he > >>> meant > >>> > Loran C. Loran is (was) the common name for the service... > But then, > >>> > you already knew that, and were just trying to stir things up. > >>> > > >>> > -Chuck Harris > >>> > > >>> > Max Robinson wrote: > >>> >> He didn't say Loran C he said Loran. That is the old system > that > >>> used > >>> >> to operate just above the AM broadcast band and took away > most of > >>> the > >>> >> 160 meter ham band. That hasn't been around for decades. I > don't > >>> think > >>> >> there is a version of it operating anywhere in the world. > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >>> > To unsubscribe, go to > >>> > [3]https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >>> > and follow the instructions there. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >>> To unsubscribe, go to > >>> [4]https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >>> and follow the instructions there. > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to > >> [5]https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >> and follow the instructions there. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > ===== > > Chris Albertson > > Redondo Beach, California > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > [6]https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > [7]https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > References > > 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Navy > 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym_and_initialism > 3. https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > 4. https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > 5. https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > 6. https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > 7. https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.