On 9/23/11 2:00 PM, Chris Howard wrote:

Seems like a lot of unknowns. You would have to
have sensors monitoring the sensors.

I think the "clock model" (insofar as variations in the oscillator) are outside the scope, as long as the effect of that variation can be represented cleanly.

For example, with a simple 2 term linear model t = clock/rate + offset, you can describe the *effect* of a rate, and if the rate changes, the model changes. As long as you keep track of the rates and offsets you've used in the past, you can reconstruct what "clock" was for any t or vice versa.


A clock model predictor might use all those factors to better estimate the rate. Having a high order polynomial model might let you not need to update the model parameters as often. That's a tradeoff the user could make: Do I use a 2 or 3 term clock to time transformation, and update it once a minute, or do I use a 20 term transformation, and update it once a month.






Do you lose too much by just maintaining a lifetime worst-case number, or
maybe some kind of probability function?


Certainly one cannot do a worst-case number. Consider that you have two endpoints that need to be synchronized within 1 millisecond. This requires that the clocks at each end have known rate/offset to an accuracy of around 1ppm for 1000 second time span. Assuming that you have some magic means to measure this, you'd like to have a standard way to describe the rate and offset (so that you don't have as many formats as you do endpoints).


OK, so if you wanted an output from your Time API that gave you a "estimated uncertainty of time" (think like the accuracy estimates from GPS receivers), what would that look like?

Do you give a 1 sigma number? What about bounding values? (e.g. the API returns "the time is 12:21:03.6315, standard deviation of 1.5 millisecond, but guaranteed in the range 12:21:03 to 12:21:04)

I would expect that a fancy implementation might return different uncertainties for different times in the future (e.g. I might say that I can schedule something with an accuracy of 1 millisecond in the next 10 minutes, but only within 30 milliseconds when it's 24 hours away)

The mechanics of how one might come up with this uncertainty estimate are out of scope, but the semantics and format of how one reports it are in scope for the architecture.

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