There are failures and there are failures. A negative result is a failure that is worth reporting.
A failure due to an improperly mated connector... not so much. When doing a complex experiment, you have to be an absolute SOB about everything. "You cannot inspect in quality". YMMV, -John ================ > On 03/30/2012 04:55 PM, Javier Serrano wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:07 PM, iov...@inwind.it<iov...@inwind.it> >> wrote: >>> http://inagist.com/all/185697069783195648/ >>> >>> Personally I'm sorry about such an end of the story. >> >> There was a meeting in Gran Sasso on Wednesday. You can see some of >> the slides at >> http://agenda.infn.it/materialDisplay.py?materialId=slides&confId=4896 >> >> I found particularly interesting the ones by Maximiliano Sioli, where >> he explained the two mistakes found in the OPERA data acquisition >> chain and how, after correcting for their best estimate of their >> effects, the time of flight is compatible with a speed of c. >> >> I saw the webcast of the event. Some people did give the OPERA >> spokesman a hard time, and he admitted to not having fully checked >> everything they could have. Ah well, everyone makes mistakes. There >> will be another run with neutrinos spaced by 100 ns in May. If all >> four experiments in LNGS give the same result this time, I suppose the >> case will be closed. It will also be very interesting to see the MINOS >> results. > > As in any research, even a failure is worth reporting, as people can > learn from it. Many forget this and tend to select their results which > can be a danger as you can go into bad science that way. > >> In any event, from a time-nut point of view this is quite exciting. It >> is the first time neutrino speed is measured with this precision. I >> think this will pave the way for future experiments using precision >> geodesy and time transfer. > > Will be quite interesting to follow. > > Cheers, > Magnus > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.