Well, that's what I love about the SF bay area- lots of old neighborhoods that didn't have all these silly restrictions in place when they were built. There are the "usual" CC&Rs, like I can raise chickens, but not cows, but it doesn't mandate what three colors you can paint your house, or the window coverings you can have or how long you can park your car in the driveway. Yes, things can change, but at least it's not in place in the beginning- and we can monitor implementation of any changes, at least in Palo Alto and Sunnyvale (where we have neighborhood groups that monitor such things, specifically because we like the status quo).
I'm sure some or all of the newer developments do have silly restrictions, I just would never buy into one. -Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Forster" <[email protected]> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:47:15 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Why the fuss? Earth to Dave: Sometimes laws and regulations change years after you buy a piece of property or do something perfectly legal. Nobody is safe whenever (Congress, Agency, State Legislature, Town Council, governing body, or whatever) is in session. YMMV, -John =========== > > > These are amoung other reasons why I will never buy a house in a > development or with a HOA. > > > > -Dave > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Bob Camp" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], "Discussion of precise time and frequency > measurement" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:36:23 AM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Why the fuss? > > Hi > > .... and indeed many of the "likely hiding places" are also on the list of > things you are not supposed to do. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of J. Forster > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:20 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Why the fuss? > > Vent pipes are not usually 20-30 feet tall. > > -John > > ============= > > >> Which for all intents and purposes means "nothing that looks like an >> antenna >> to John Q. Public". What if your GPS antenna looked like a vent pipe? or >> a >> Bird House? It may be difficult to hide a decent HF antenna, But, a 1.5 >> GHz >> antenna can be virtually invisible. >> Dale NV8U >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bob Camp >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:02 PM >> To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Why the fuss? >> >> Hi >> >> Right here in PA for one. You essentially can not buy a new house >> without >> there being various conditions written into the title. One universal one >> is >> "no antennas". The only exception is for one 19" sat dish for TV, since >> that's a federal mandate. >> >> Bob >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of brent evers >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:57 AM >> To: [email protected]; Discussion of precise time and frequency >> measurement >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Why the fuss? >> >> Zoning, Legal? >> >> Where? >> >> Brent >> >> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:41 AM, J. Forster <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Because: >>> >>> LORAN-C is gone. >>> >>> Not all can use GPS because of siting, horizon, zoning, legal, and >>> other >>> issues. 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