If you are under the impression living in an older, built up area will be a defense against those with a Martha Stewart fetish, you are wrong.
-John ================ > > > Well, that's what I love about the SF bay area- lots of old neighborhoods > that didn't have all these silly restrictions in place when they were > built. There are the "usual" CC&Rs, like I can raise chickens, but not > cows, but it doesn't mandate what three colors you can paint your house, > or the window coverings you can have or how long you can park your car in > the driveway. Yes, things can change, but at least it's not in place in > the beginning- and we can monitor implementation of any changes, at least > in Palo Alto and Sunnyvale (where we have neighborhood groups that monitor > such things, specifically because we like the status quo). > > > > I'm sure some or all of the newer developments do have silly restrictions, > I just would never buy into one. > > > > -Dave > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "J. Forster" <j...@quikus.com> > To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" > <time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:47:15 PM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Why the fuss? > > Earth to Dave: > > Sometimes laws and regulations change years after you buy a piece of > property or do something perfectly legal. > > Nobody is safe whenever (Congress, Agency, State Legislature, Town > Council, governing body, or whatever) is in session. > > YMMV, > > -John > > =========== > > > >> >> >> These are amoung other reasons why I will never buy a house in a >> development or with a HOA. >> >> >> >> -Dave >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: "Bob Camp" <li...@rtty.us> >> To: j...@quikus.com, "Discussion of precise time and frequency >> measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com> >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:36:23 AM >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Why the fuss? >> >> Hi >> >> .... and indeed many of the "likely hiding places" are also on the list >> of >> things you are not supposed to do. >> >> Bob >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On >> Behalf Of J. Forster >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:20 PM >> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Why the fuss? >> >> Vent pipes are not usually 20-30 feet tall. >> >> -John >> >> ============= >> >> >>> Which for all intents and purposes means "nothing that looks like an >>> antenna >>> to John Q. Public". What if your GPS antenna looked like a vent pipe? >>> or >>> a >>> Bird House? It may be difficult to hide a decent HF antenna, But, a 1.5 >>> GHz >>> antenna can be virtually invisible. >>> Dale NV8U >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Bob Camp >>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:02 PM >>> To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' >>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Why the fuss? >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Right here in PA for one. You essentially can not buy a new house >>> without >>> there being various conditions written into the title. One universal >>> one >>> is >>> "no antennas". The only exception is for one 19" sat dish for TV, since >>> that's a federal mandate. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On >>> Behalf Of brent evers >>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:57 AM >>> To: j...@quikus.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency >>> measurement >>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Why the fuss? >>> >>> Zoning, Legal? >>> >>> Where? >>> >>> Brent >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:41 AM, J. Forster <j...@quikus.com> wrote: >>>> Because: >>>> >>>> LORAN-C is gone. >>>> >>>> Not all can use GPS because of siting, horizon, zoning, legal, and >>>> other >>>> issues. Not everyone can erect antenna towers. >>>> >>>> There is nothing else, except perhaps WWV or CHU on HF. >>>> >>>> -John >>>> >>>> ================== >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I cannot think of a time-nuts WWVB reference requirement >>>>> that cannot be better satisfied with a GPSDO. >>>>> >>>>> Will àNIST publish a public domain reference circuit? >>>>> That would allay patent concerns. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R ààc...@omen.com àwww.omen.com >>>>> Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications >>>>> ààOmen Technology Inc ààà"The High Reliability >>>>> Software" >>>>> 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231 à503-614-0430 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>>>> To unsubscribe, go to >>>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>>> To unsubscribe, go to >>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to >>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to >>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to >>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.