Here the figures are the same, except: start ptr is 24 and stop ptr is
23 and last efc average is 680694.8 and not 0.0

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Azelio Boriani
<azelio.bori...@screen.it> wrote:
> I haven't tracked the Z3815A startup so can't tell when the
> uncertainty was available. Looking at the log (diag:log:read:all?) I
> can tell that after the power on you should have a GPS reference valid
> (~12 minutes later) then a GPS lock started and an ACT from unlock (~1
> second later). Two hours later you should have a position hold mode
> started and I think that the uncertainty must be available at that
> point. It will look high but should be available.
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Mark C. Stephens <ma...@non-stop.com.au> 
> wrote:
>> Thanks Azelio, That's what I wanted to hear, it does display predicted 
>> holdover uncertainty.
>> It still hasn't come up on mine and it's been of for more than 48 hours 
>> (uh-oh, everyone says)
>> Without resetting it, can you, from memory, remember when the PHU was 
>> displayed?
>> Like right after GPS lock (as per other smart clocks) or some time later?
>>
>>
>> -marki
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Azelio Boriani
>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2013 11:09 PM
>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3815A
>>
>> The Z3815A here has (right now) 3.4us/24h of holdover uncertainty and -7.0ns 
>> PPS relative to GPS. The health monitor and the self test show OK 
>> everywhere. It is ON since 12, 2011.
>>
>> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Bob Camp <li...@rtty.us> wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Well, probably as good as the manual ... we have the guy who designed it 
>>> (Rick Karlquist) lurking around here somewhere. I don't think I've ever 
>>> seen a manual.
>>>
>>> How long have you had the 3815? If not so long, I'd contact the seller. You 
>>> have indeed convinced me to quickly fire up the next one I have coming in.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 29, 2013, at 2:14 AM, Mark C. Stephens <ma...@non-stop.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow the 2 black heatsinks on the puck are really hot - too hot to touch.
>>>> I don't think that would be normal deign.
>>>> They are probably the excessive current sink culprits.
>>>> Anyone got a manual for the e1398a OCXO?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -marki
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]
>>>> On Behalf Of Mark C. Stephens
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2013 12:36 PM
>>>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
>>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3815A
>>>>
>>>> I believe these were all rescued from the Tip (Dump, Trash) judging by the 
>>>> water damage and bent cases.
>>>>
>>>> Mine had been tested in Japan and had approximate co-ordinates in it:
>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=34+44'+N+135+21'+E&oq=34+44'+N+135+21
>>>> '+E
>>>>
>>>> Initially I had a OCXO communication error which I fixed by a
>>>> :syst:pres (shrug, I thought it was pretty major at the time, I can
>>>> tell you!)
>>>>
>>>> At the moment it's in an air scrubbed and temperature controlled room, 
>>>> naked, without its case.
>>>> Both heatsinks are just slightly warm to the touch.
>>>> However the Puck is fairly warm..
>>>>
>>>> I still have "Holdover Uncertainty Predict: --" which is a bit of a worry.
>>>>
>>>> Also the 1PPS TI is always about -100ns relative to GPS, which is way out 
>>>> there..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -marki
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]
>>>> On Behalf Of Stewart Cobb
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2013 8:13 AM
>>>> To: time-nuts@febo.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3815A
>>>>
>>>> Your Z3815A may need more cooling than it's getting, especially if
>>>> you have it resting "horizontally" as it looks like it should.  I
>>>> bought one of those "kits from China" about a year and a half ago.
>>>> Powered it up, waited for it to lock ... and it was dead within a
>>>> week, with the unmistakable smell of overheated electronics.  One of
>>>> the Vicor power bricks inside
>>>> (probably) overheated and shorted out.  Here's what I learned:
>>>>
>>>> The Z3815A board was designed to go into a VXI-like mainframe, with a 
>>>> carefully specified amount of cooling airflow.  I think that particular 
>>>> board was designed to require that airflow, and overheats without it.
>>>> There's a group in Australia which has experience with these boxes, and I 
>>>> got the impression from my contacts with them that they see the Vicor 
>>>> bricks fail pretty regularly.  That would imply that they're not getting 
>>>> the cooling they need, because Vicor bricks in other applications are 
>>>> pretty reliable in my experience.
>>>>
>>>> You can see a photo of the original Z3815A on TVB's website here:
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/z3815a/>
>>>>
>>>> The Z3815A I got from China was in a different case, just two bent pieces 
>>>> of sheet aluminum.  The case _looks_ official, with the right label on the 
>>>> front and silkscreen on the back.  But the board inside had a lot more 
>>>> crud and corrosion than the nice clean case did, and parts of the plastic 
>>>> edge connector on the back of the board were broken.  Worst of all, the 
>>>> coaxial cable from the antenna connector ended in a one-inch flying lead 
>>>> soldered to the board.  The "shield" of the coax cable ended in another 
>>>> flying lead, soldered to ground somewhere else.  (Any RF engineers reading 
>>>> this are probably cringing now.)  I'm pretty sure that no one at HP 
>>>> designed or approved that connection.  Once I saw it, I understood why the 
>>>> GPS receiver appeared to be "deaf."  Even connected to a very good 
>>>> antenna, it never saw more than 4 satellites, and even those had weak 
>>>> signals.
>>>>
>>>> Did someone in China find a cache of bare Z3815 boards in a scrapyard 
>>>> somewhere, and fab an official-looking case to match?  I don't know, but 
>>>> it might be the way to bet.  Meanwhile, take the lid off your Z3815A and 
>>>> feel the heatsinks on the power bricks.  If they're too hot to touch, 
>>>> they're too hot; give them some air.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> --Stu
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