Hi Bob,

Thanks Bob.  It's hard to say whether or not it attenuates at the lower 
elevations, but it does add gain to the higher ones.  Well, at least I have 
some idea what I'm shooting for.

Bob





>________________________________
> From: Bob Camp <li...@rtty.us>
>To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> 
>Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 4:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Choke Ring Antenna - Patch Placement?
> 
>
>Hi
>
>You are looking for total rejection of any signal below the horizon, and near 
>total rejection of any signal within 10 degrees of the horizon. Obviously 
>total and near total could have db numbers associated with them, but the 
>numbers you get are what ever you get….
>
>Bob
>
>On Oct 10, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Bob Stewart <b...@evoria.net> wrote:
>
>> I bought a set of Wilton "tuned" pie pans yesterday to experiment with a 
>> choke ring antenna.  The "kit" consists of 4 pans of diameters 12", 10", 8", 
>> and 6".  The height of the sides is more or less 51mm.  I've been 
>> experimenting with placement of the patch in the pit, but I don't know what 
>> I'm looking for, so a little help would be appreciated.  Am I looking for 
>> best overall signal level from horizon to azimuth, or something else?  I'm 
>> not sure I would know how to measure multi-path levels.  There seems to be a 
>> definite difference depending on whether the patch is at the bottom, 
>> somewhere in the middle, level with the rim of the pans, or even perched on 
>> a DVD disk which is level with the rim.  I don't have any sort of metal 
>> container to use as a support for the patch at this point.
>> 
>> Bob - AE6RV
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