I've seen the ring described as a ground plane, and as a series of 1/4 wave 
vertical filters.  The polarization is probably just the antenna element 
itself.  I don't think that a filter would care.  It looks like Don's comment 
about putting the patch just below the rim is pretty close.  I've been playing 
with it, and a CD about 3/16" below the rim plane with the patch sitting on top 
gives a pretty good pattern.  I need to find something else to use as spacers 
so I can get about 1/8" lower to see how it plays.

Bob





>________________________________
> From: Bob Camp <li...@rtty.us>
>To: Bob Stewart <b...@evoria.net>; Discussion of precise time and frequency 
>measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> 
>Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:04 PM
>Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Choke Ring Antenna - Patch Placement?
> 
>
>Hi
>
>The first design principle they seem to use is to attenuate low angle signals. 
>The assumption is that they are bouncing off ground level targets and then 
>into the antenna. If there is a second principle (like polarization selection) 
>it's not really clear how they are getting that job done. 
>
>Bob
>
>
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