On 09/02/14 22:05, gandal...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 09/02/2014 15:31:47 GMT Standard Time,
mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org writes:

On  09/02/14 12:56, gandal...@aol.com wrote:
Oh well, full credit to Mr  Trimble for getting it right, he does bake
exceedingly nice GPS  modules and the Ace3 doesn't have a rollover issue
and it
does  report the date correctly.

Unfortunately, as far as I can tell  anyway, the BC637PCI takes the raw
GPS
time data from the Ace3 and  performs its own calculation which is where
the
   problem  seems to occur, certainly it's a 1024 week issue with the date
  from  the BC637 being displayed as June 26 1994 in all versions of  the
associated  demo software.
It is possible to set the  date correctly but the next packet from the GPS
module promptly  overwrites it again.

I still don't recall seeing this before,  although with two boards
behaving
in the same fashion I'm having  doubts about that, but more to the point
these boards indicate a  firmware date of 2003 which implies they were
put
into the field  like this, and that doesn't make much sense  either.

Any  ideas anyone?, and again has anyone else seen this and/or am I
missing
  something glaringly obvious?

If the ACE3 gives correct date, but the  BC637 FW does not, then it is
obvious that the FW does the unwrapping  itself just like a problematic
GPS receiver would. Most probably would the  ACE3 have issues if it
looses it's CMOS backup.

I haven't looked at  those details, but you should be able to disable the
date from being set  by the GPS. Maybe play around there.

Might be that the FW needs an  update, which naturally may not be in
existence. Can you read-out the  EPROM?

Only proves to show that my comment that NTPD needs to do the  1024 week
correction for other GPS dependent drivers than the NMEA (NTP  bug 2466)
is a correct assumption. See the posting I forwarded  yesterday.

Cheers,
Magnus
Hi Magnus, and thanks for your comments.

I arrived at the same conclusion regarding the BC637 firmware and  that's
the issue I'd like to resolve, but I'm a bit cautious given that these  were
produced after 1999 as I can't understand why the firmware wouldn't already
have been updated.'

It probably operates on a shifted 1024 week period and that was probably not changed after the original code was written. Obviously the shifted wrapping has now occurred.

1999 is only relevant for the non-shifted 1024 period.

It is possible to set the board for other than GPS, (Timecode, Freerunning,
  or 1PPS) but I suspect I might then loose the conditioning, something I'd
need to check. Either way, I'd like to have the correct GPS date too if
possible, but it's the conditioning that's of more interest so I'd do without
the correct date if needs be.

I've identified two programmable devices, the version H manual  with
schematics is very useful:-), the first being a OTP configuration PROM  for the
Spartan FPGA and the other a TMS29F010 flash mamory IC which I suspect  holds
the firmware. That is socketed but I don't think I have the necessary 32
pin quad adapter to be able to read it.

It would be the TMS29F010 flash which would be of interest.

This was only intended to be a quick test, funny how "quick  tests" soon
become major projects:-), so these might have to go back  into hibernation
again shortly, for the time being at least.

Fair enough!

Cheers,
Magnus

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