Since the original question was about alternatives to the traveling clock method before the advent of GPS, I remember two that were used by NASA to check the synchronization of their Deep Space Network facilities around the world.

- Moon bounce: A PN code was modulated on a microwave signal that was sent from the Mohave desert (there were a suitable transmitter - antenna there) to the Moon and its reflection was picked up in the facility to be synchronized.. To simplify the receiving equipment the code was continually compensated for the varying round trip distance between stations and it was correlated with a ramped model in the receiving end. The output was drawn on a strip chart recorder and some interpretation was needed to estimate the clock difference. The accuracy was said to be about 1 us but the system was not very popular within the transmitter and the receiver crews. -VLBI: Among other observables, VLBI can be used to get very good estimations of the clock difference between stations.

A traveling clock was also used, there were lots of stories of afraid pasengers traveling close to the "Atomic Clock " and for making the thing more frightening it was a HP Cesium with the Patek Philipe analog clock in the front conspicuously ticking. They were assured that it was not an "Atomic Bomb" !!!.

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Ignacio EB4APL

On 04/03/2014 4:23, Bob Camp wrote:
Hi

One of the early relativity confirmation experiments was done with very similar 
clocks before that film clip was made. There were a number of corrections made 
as part of the trip. One of them was to re-confirm the traveling Cs once it got 
back to it’s starting point. You only could “use” the trip if the Cs came back 
home still on time.

There were a *lot* of satellite time transfer experiments in the 60’s and 70’s. 
They worked well enough to reduce the frequency of clock trips, but not well 
enough to eliminate them. The GPS common view stuff was the first approach that 
(with proper calibration) got them to a better level of time transfer than a 
clock trip.

Bob

On Mar 3, 2014, at 9:50 PM, Max Robinson <m...@maxsmusicplace.com> wrote:

The piece didn't say anything about correcting for acceleration.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Burrell" <jimmydb...@gmail.com>
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Subject: [time-nuts] Time transfer, internationally before GPS


My apologies to the list if this has been posted before but I found it 
fascinating. I'm guessing this was early 60's.

I wonder if this practice continued until the advent of GPS? I be interested to 
know if there was an interim technology and what it was.

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