Thanks Tom, though I'm less sure about competence and persistence as opposed to ignorance and naivity

This started as an exercise to see if the approach could be done (more or less) in software. It can, and the results are promising enough to continue working on it. Even with my hacked together breadboard, I get sub-ns resolution and can easily measure the lengths of wire that I'm using in under a second. Whilst 'sub-ns' isn't perhaps quite time nut standard yet and doesn't sound great against the theoretical ps/fs resolution, it is significantly better than can be achieved using, say, just the BBB counters on their own. It's not a bad improvement for the simple addition of an external flip flop.

As a taster, attached is a current ADEV plot for a TCXO, neatly showing that I still have work to do for tau < 1s.

Cheers


Simon


On 15/10/2014 00:52, Magnus Danielson wrote:
Tom,

I think I wrote some VHDL code for a project like this... if I should dig it out again?

Cheers,
Magnus

On 10/14/2014 11:19 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote:
Hi Simon,

Some additional info. I first heard about the D-FF method of frequency comparison in the late 90's (from Rick Hambly, I think) on the old gps mailing list. It sounded really interesting. Since then, the subject has turned up every few years on this list. But each time, the topic seems to go away quietly with little or no data, plots or explanation. In addition, none of the commercial products I've taken apart appear to use this approach. Hmm. So that begs the question -- what's really going on, and why.

I'm enjoying this thread because you've shown both technical competence and optimistic persistence. Perhaps once and for all, with your efforts, we can settle this matter. You will either find a working combination with excellent performance, or you will uncover enough uncontrolled variables that you never want to try it again. Either way, we all learn a lot. Keep the photos, data, and plots coming.

Thanks,
/tvb

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Yes, I do understand I'm asking for trouble, though I kinda expected to
see more noise rather than less.
I guess its time to break out the soldering iron.

Cheers


Simon

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