The sampling will be done by a set of ECL flops. The FPGA is reading the already sampled ECL outputs. (with ECL to CMOS converters) I'm using a hex ECL register with one clock input for all six flops,

The ECL input circuit is a differential amplifier, I will be feeding the CMOS level input to one side and the other side will be a very low noise reference voltage set to half the CMOS voltage (1.65V for 3.3V square wave).

I really don't know the input noise of that differential amp, but it is probably much better than a normal CMOS input. I guess I will find out!

The particular chip says it has a max of 100fs additive jitter on the output from the input clock. But that is output jitter, I don't really care about output jitter, it is sampling jitter that is important here, I'm not sure how those two correlate.

John S.

On 6/13/2016 6:28 AM, Chris Caudle wrote:
On Sun, June 12, 2016 10:50 pm, John Swenson wrote:
I'm just doing phase noise measurements of digital clocks (square waves)
so it seems to me I don't need some of the circuitry in the TimePod, in
particular the digitally controlled RF attenuators and the ADCs
themselves. My idea is to use LVPECL flip-flops to sample the DUT and
reference clocks, convert the differential outputs to CMOS and feed the
FPGA inputs from that. Yes you loose AM noise riding on top of the
square wave, but is that really necessary for just square wave phase
noise measurements?

Are the FPGA inputs low enough noise for that?  With an ADC the time
resolution is a combination of clock noise and input noise, for most high
quality ADC the effective time resolution you can achieve by analyzing the
output data stream is much higher than the resolution of the clock period.
Can you achieve similar with just a single bit quantizer based on the FPGA
CMOS inputs?



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