Hi

> On Jan 20, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Tom Miller <tmiller11...@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jimlux" <jim...@earthlink.net>
> To: <time-nuts@febo.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 8:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Harmonics
> 
> 
>> On 1/19/17 8:48 PM, Rhys D wrote:
>>> Thanks for the detailed post Bill,
>>> 
>>> I'm learning a lot here!
>>> So the spectrum analyser is indeed a "trap for young players"
>>> As you guessed, it is a Siglent SSA3000X series analyzer.
>>> 
>>> I just looked at the same signal again with varied attenuations dialed in
>>> on the instrument (I am using an external 20dB attenuator from minicircuits
>>> as well)
>>> 
>>> Here is what I saw:
>>> 
>>> Attenuation  -  Fundamental - 1st Harmonic - 2nd Harmonic
>>> 15 dB          -   11.40 dB      - 49.13 dB        - 51.12 dB
>>> 20 dB          -   11.40 dB      - 48.84 dB        - 56.48 dB
>>> 25 dB          -   11.28 dB      - 48.32 dB        - 49.15 dB
>>> 
>>> I guess these numbers mean I can't really trust what I can see on the
>>> instrument screen?
>> 
>> Actually, that's fairly good.  Most spectrum analyzers are good to about 1/2 
>> dB with a moderate level signal (your fundamental).
>> 
>> The variation you're seeing is probably some combination of:
>> 1) the mismatch between the source impedance and the spectrum analyzer input 
>> impedance - the latter of which almost certainly changes with attenuation 
>> setting
>> 2) The calibration of the step attenuator.
>> 3) maybe some change in harmonic production in the SA front end... in your 
>> case, though the harmonic levels go DOWN as the attenuation is decreased, 
>> which is the opposite of what happens with harmonics
>> 
> 
> If you want to see the levels of the harmonics you should notch out the 
> fundamental.

….. and use a notch filter that does not miss-terminate the output amplifier 
(as most notch filters do …) 

Bob

> 
> Regards,
> Tom
> 
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