Hi Jim,
I'm not sure you're plotting what you think you are, but perhaps I 
misunderstood.  The phase error data contains both the position uncertainty of 
the Adafruit (constellation, ionosphere, etc) and an error caused by correcting 
the OCXO using that phase error.  IOW, the fact that the phase error puts the 
OCXO back in phase is problematic.

You might think about disconnecting the EFC from the OCXO and feeding the OCXO 
directly with a fixed voltage derived from the VRef output of the OCXO, 
assuming it has one.  Then, carefully adjust the VRef voltage so that the phase 
error changes very slowly.  Let it cook for a few days and restabilize, then 
start logging your phase error.  Feed that to Timelab and see what the plot 
looks like.  Timelab should be able to remove the aging, so that you wind up 
with a plot that's mostly the Adafruit.  Of course, that depends on which OCXO 
you're using.  I've had good luck with the Trimble 34310-Ts that are about $20 
each depending on the vendor.

Bob 

      From: Jim Harman <j99har...@gmail.com>
 To: Bob Stewart <b...@evoria.net>; Discussion of precise time and frequency 
measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> 
 Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 9:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Three-cornered hat on timelab?
   

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Bob Stewart <b...@evoria.net> wrote:

So, back to my question:  Where are the large ionospheric phase moves?  This 
question has been causing me doubt since I started on this project.  Or don't I 
still have enough data collected for this to happen?

Bob

Bob, my test setup is a good deal simpler than yours, but attached is a plot 
that I think shows the variations you are looking for quite clearly. This is 
data from my homebrew GPSDO, which uses an Adafruit non-timing GPS module and a 
run-of-the-mill surplus OCXO. The plot records the phase comparator output over 
a period of about 1 week. The time constant of the PLL is 1024 seconds and it 
is plotting the 5-minute average TIC values. 
The full horizontal scale is 24 hours.
The vertical scale shows the data from several days with the traces for 
successive days offset upwards by the equivalent of 40 nsec.
As you can see there is pretty good correlation of the phase error from day to 
day and the wiggles migrate to the left a little, corresponding to the 23:56:04 
siderial repeat time of the GPS constellation.This is with a pretty good 
antenna location, under a shingle roof in the attic. I calculate the day-to-day 
correlation at about 0.8.
Making the time constant larger increases the variations somewhat, because the 
loop does not adjust as much, and they definitely get worse if I use a less 
optimal antenna location.



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--Jim Harman


   
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