Management signed a PO for the previously "unneeded" Symmetricom units that had been requested a year earlier the next day...
Jim ________________________________ From: time-nuts <time-nuts-boun...@lists.febo.com> on behalf of Scott McGrath <scmcgr...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 11:24:03 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWV and legal issues Bingo - we have a a Winner!!! In a prior life as an architect at a northeastern we had Cs clocks, multiple GPS based NTP servers and CDMA NTP servers as TIME was the public key for all the crypto systems the Cs clocks were there in case GPS ‘went away’ for any reason and with service reliability as the primary goal instead of ‘maximizing shareholder value’ we made sure that precision timing could survive anything short of total destruction of the campus and our backup sites. On Aug 30, 2018, at 11:04 AM, James C Cotton <jim.cot...@wmich.edu> wrote: Time is the public key for a lot of the crypto that runs on networks. Any large university or corporation has multiple GPS based time sources and compares them to others... Back in the mid-1980's a fire in a CO in East Lansing, MI and a backhoe in Jackson, MI took out the Internet connections at the university I work at. A couple of routers using time as the public key and exchanging encrypted routing packets were isolated. Jim Cotton ________________________________ From: time-nuts <time-nuts-boun...@lists.febo.com> on behalf of Scott McGrath <scmcgr...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 10:42:45 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWV and legal issues Um no Will the internet continue to route packets without precision timing yes it will, Yes the lambdas will stay lit on fiber but the ATM transport that runs on the lambdas will fail (note DSL is simply an ATM VC over copper). and other timing dependent services will fail Will many services like authentication continue especially those based on multimaster replication continue to function? No they will not, they are totally dependent on precision timing to ensure proper replication sourcing. (Microsoft Active Directory) Banking transactions in the same boat. Unless you’ve actually run a large network you dont realize just how dependent on precision timing the services running over the network have become especially authentication And one reason for this is increased security for the overall network. On Aug 30, 2018, at 8:45 AM, Brian Lloyd <br...@lloyd.aero> wrote: On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 7:01 AM, Scott McGrath <scmcgr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Without precision timing there is no telephone network, cell phones or > internet. And that only became true in the last 20 years or so as long > haul networks went from FDM on coaxial cable to TDM on fibre. > The Internet is largely asynchronous due to the store-and-forward nature of the routers. Fiber capacity is increased through the use of wavelength division multiplexing (WDM) which is itself a form of FDM. The Internet functions without any sort of central synchronization. Yes, there are portions that run over the synchronized telco services but that is by convenience, not necessity. -- Brian Lloyd 706 Flightline Spring Branch, TX 78070 br...@lloyd.aero +1.210.802-8FLY (1.210.802-8359) _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
