On 2/25/19 5:48 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote:
Hi

Indeed there is both a minimum and a maximum working voltage for a properly 
derated electrolytic
capacitor. We found that out in the middle of a design review when the 
customer’s team brought it
up … (much to our surprise).

Bob



The Cornell Dubilier app guide doesn't seem to mention it.
http://www.cde.com/resources/catalogs/AEappGUIDE.pdf

NAVSEA derating guidelines make no mention of it:
https://www.navsea.navy.mil/Portals/103/Documents/NSWC_Crane/SD-18/PDFs/Products/Capacitors/CapacitorsDeratingRevB.pdf

They're both appear to be focused on essentially setting a lower voltage as a thermal consideration, and not on a "giving you more margin to failure voltage".

https://www.illinoiscapacitor.com/pdf/Papers/reliability_of_capacitors_general.pdf

says you only get a max of twice rated life by derating. Maybe that's because of the "reforming of the dielectric to a thinner layer"..

This is a compendium from 1981 of all sorts of capacitor information but doesn't seem to address derating.
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19810017835.pdf


https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20160003309.pdf has a lot of info on wet slug tantalums..




On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:48 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp <p...@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote:

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<CADHrwpcdmyeguXoM69D2byW=DfKwMfi7_t-P=qYst7T7OO=e...@mail.gmail.com>, Dana 
Whitlow writes:

This would seem to imply that purposely overrating a 'lyt is pretty pointless.

Any comments on this notion?

I've always wondered that myself, and found very little documentation or
wisdom available.

As I understand it, even very brief voltage spikes must be kept under the
rated voltage, so overrating would buy some transient durability, but
other than that...

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