Hello Michael,

On Mon, Jul 06, 2026 at 09:15:36PM +0000, Michael Ackermann via Tinycc-devel 
wrote:
> > A complete Posix-like system, i.e. including its kernel, utility programs
> > and compilers, created as a reproducible binary, without reliance on
> > _any_ specific binary blobs, is available since several years ago from
> > the VSOBFS project.
> 
> So far live-bootstrap is the only known complete(!!!) system bootstrap
> (involving tinycc).

I have to assume that you mean some very specific definition of "complete".

> Feel free to present your VSOBFS proposal to #bootstrappable people who
> typically welcome all alternative approaches to discuss limitations of any

1. VSOBFS is not a proposal but a long ago completed project.

2. People from bootstrappable.org are not welcoming approaches which
show that the use of binary seeds is gratuitous.

> (for that matter there is limitations with live-bootstrap too but the 
> developers
> are honest about those).

Correct. According to the live-bootstrap README[1]:
"Currently, there is no way to perform the bootstrap without
external preparations! This is a currently unsolved problem."

Remarkably, this is a problem which does not seem to have a solution?

Regards
/tccm

[1] 
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fosslinux/live-bootstrap/refs/heads/master/README.rst

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