Thanks for the reference, Cecil.  I'm looking forward to reading it.

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Dr. Cecil Hutto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Thu 9/11/2003 10:45 AM 
        To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences 
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        Subject: Re: Freud and humanity
        
        
        I found "The Question of God" to be an interesting read. However, I thought 
the author attempted too often to make implications about Freud's personal 
life/behaviors that were unnecessary. And I should say that I'm a behaviorist and no 
great fan of Freud or his theories.
        
        Cecil
        
        Hetzel, Rod wrote:
        

                Hey folks.  Someone made a passing reference in one of our recent
                religion discussions about how Freud believed that people were too
                inherently self-centered (or something else) to truly "turn the other
                cheek" or love others.  Can someone point me to some of Freud's writing
                where he discussed this?  I'm hoping our resident Freud scholar can
                offer some guidance on this!
                
                On a related note, does anyone have a review of the next text, "The
                Question of God: C.S. Lewis and Sigmund Freud Debate God, Love, Sex, 
and
                the Meaning of Life"?  It's on my list of must-reads but I haven't
                gotten around to it yet.
                
                Rod  
                
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                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: DeVolder Carol L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                        Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 1:55 PM
                        To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
                        Subject: RE: IQ
                        
                        
                        
                            
                        Thanks for a good discussion
                        
                        I'm trying to not commit the same errors I usually make and 
                        clog the list with what some might see as irrelevant material
                        
                        Cheers,
                        Jim
                            
                        I've enjoyed all of your discussions of this very much 
                        (although I must admit, I felt sort of ignorant in the 
                        presence of you scholars). I have a question that is only 
                        slightly related to this discussion...
                        
                        There is/was a practice of mortification of sins (or so I've 
                        been told), in which the sinner beat the guilt out of himself 
                        (OK, I admit, my understanding is vague, please correct me on 
                        this, I'd appreciate it). My real question is this: Does 
                        anyone know anything about the concept of mortification of 
                        memory? It has to do with purging one's self of sinful 
                        memories or something like that. I'm presently involved in 
                        research on directed forgetting/instructed ignoring and see a 
                        historical precursor.
                        
                        Thanks for any help that anyone can give me.
                        Carol
                        
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