Rick Adams wrote: > The trouble is, Louis, change IS being interpreted as "dumbing down" > by many administrators who view the risk of "offending" someone who > might sue as a result as being FAR more important than the risk of > graduating students who don't know anything about the subjects they studied.
I think the additional point made was that this problem is not caused by the ADA, but by more general processes. There's a couple of empirical questions here: - Has there been a decline in the extent to which having a degree in some field indicates having some knowledge about that field? - Has there been a decline in the extent to which having a degree in some field indicates having some skills in that field? - Has there been a decline in the extent to which having a degree at all indicates having some general knowledge? - Has there been a decline in the extent to which having a degree at all indicates having some general skills (reading, writing, library research, math, science, reasoning, etc.)? The latter two questions "scale down", as they can also be asked about what a high school diploma indicates, and what grade school graduation indicates. I don't mean to imply that we already know that the answer is "yes" to these questions. I can imagine a few alternative explanations for what looks like an obvious decline in each of these areas (the main alternative explanation I see is selection bias: that we compare all of our students to ourselves and our college faculty peers, rather than to all of our college peers - surely a very unfair comparison). The problem certainly does not reduce in a simple way to a question about denying access to college to groups that traditionally have not attended college. If you sit in a course in engineering or computer science at a large university, you'll quickly find that non-traditional students dominate some of the most demanding majors. I also do not think that the problem can be completely passed off on adminstrators - I'll bet I'm not the only one on this list who is right now looking at student work wondering "is this really the quality of performance I want from graduates from my program?", and will give in and accept it. I have worked out a few hundred rationalizations for doing so, but I doubt that anyone wants to waste time arguing about them. It's simply silly and insulting to attempt to pass the problem off as faculty non-acceptance of difference, or dislike of being "inconvenienced". Faculty concern about this is very obviously inspired by their integrity: their concern about the value of a degree from their programs. In fact, obviously the "convenient" thing to do is to make the accommodations without worrying about the integrity of a program. Paul Smith Alverno College Milwaukee --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]