Anne, what constitutes a "substantive word?"  

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-----Original Message-----
From: Karl L. Wuensch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:14 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject: "Five words in a row" (Taylor, March 16, 2005)

    Martha Capreol considers her students to have plagiarized if they
use 
any five words in a row that are identical to the source document, and 
Annette Taylor might with four words in a row.  Please note that "five
words 
in a row" are five words that I copied verbatim from her post, and I
might 
well have worded it exactly that way even if I read her post yesterday
and 
commented on it today without looking back to see exactly how she worded
it. 
Also note that the phrase "five words in a row" appeared earlier in 
Annette's post, but Martha did not enclose them in quotation marks when
she 
used the same phrase.

    I think we all could find common examples of five word phrases that
are 
likely to be used by any person writing about a certain topic, and any 
reasonable person would not consider the use of such words to constitute

plagiarism.

    Oh my, Microsoft OE has just plagiarized -- in the header of this
email 
it inserted the five word phrase "Teaching in the Psychological
Sciences" 
without proper attribution of source or quotation marks.  I hope it adds

quotation marks before it reaches yours inbox. It has also plagiarized
the 
subject line in this thread -- I changed the subject line to avoid the 
penalty for plagiarism.

    A related issue -- those students' papers for which the majority of
the 
text is within quotes.  I am expecting one of these days to get a paper
that 
has only one pair of quotation marks, one mark at the very beginning of
the 
paper and one at the very end.

    An unrelated issue -- use of the word "impact" --  
http://personal.ecu.edu/wuenschk/humor/impact.txt  (WARNING:
scatological 
reference).

Cheers,

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East Carolina University, Greenville NC  27858-4353
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Martha Capreol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <tips@acsun.frostburg.edu>
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: how many words equal plagiarism?


 I also consider 5 words in a row verbatim plagiarism.  I do allow more 
leeway for technical phrases or psychological terminology.  I also look
for 
large sections where the words are just rearranged.  For minor 
transgressions, I give zero in the sections of the assignment impacted
Cheers.
Martha Capreol
Instructor, University of British Columbia


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Annette Taylor, Ph. D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <tips@acsun.frostburg.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:35 PM
Subject: how many words equal plagiarism?


> Tipsters:
>
> So, some of my students are claiming a very difficult time finding a
way
> to
> summarize in their own words, elements of the method and results
sections
> for
> article reviews/summaries. So, how many words equal plagiarism? If
they
> borrow
> a phrase, is that OK for technical details? How about 4-5 words in a
row
> verbatim? Is that too many?



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