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-----Original Message----- From: Karl L. Wuensch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:14 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: "Five words in a row" (Taylor, March 16, 2005) Martha Capreol considers her students to have plagiarized if they use any five words in a row that are identical to the source document, and Annette Taylor might with four words in a row. Please note that "five words in a row" are five words that I copied verbatim from her post, and I might well have worded it exactly that way even if I read her post yesterday and commented on it today without looking back to see exactly how she worded it. Also note that the phrase "five words in a row" appeared earlier in Annette's post, but Martha did not enclose them in quotation marks when she used the same phrase. I think we all could find common examples of five word phrases that are likely to be used by any person writing about a certain topic, and any reasonable person would not consider the use of such words to constitute plagiarism. Oh my, Microsoft OE has just plagiarized -- in the header of this email it inserted the five word phrase "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" without proper attribution of source or quotation marks. I hope it adds quotation marks before it reaches yours inbox. It has also plagiarized the subject line in this thread -- I changed the subject line to avoid the penalty for plagiarism. A related issue -- those students' papers for which the majority of the text is within quotes. I am expecting one of these days to get a paper that has only one pair of quotation marks, one mark at the very beginning of the paper and one at the very end. An unrelated issue -- use of the word "impact" -- http://personal.ecu.edu/wuenschk/humor/impact.txt (WARNING: scatological reference). Cheers, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl L. Wuensch, Department of Psychology, East Carolina University, Greenville NC 27858-4353 Voice: 252-328-4102 Fax: 252-328-6283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://core.ecu.edu/psyc/wuenschk/klw.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martha Capreol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <tips@acsun.frostburg.edu> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 1:30 AM Subject: Re: how many words equal plagiarism? I also consider 5 words in a row verbatim plagiarism. I do allow more leeway for technical phrases or psychological terminology. I also look for large sections where the words are just rearranged. For minor transgressions, I give zero in the sections of the assignment impacted Cheers. Martha Capreol Instructor, University of British Columbia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Taylor, Ph. D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <tips@acsun.frostburg.edu> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:35 PM Subject: how many words equal plagiarism? > Tipsters: > > So, some of my students are claiming a very difficult time finding a way > to > summarize in their own words, elements of the method and results sections > for > article reviews/summaries. So, how many words equal plagiarism? If they > borrow > a phrase, is that OK for technical details? How about 4-5 words in a row > verbatim? Is that too many? --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]