I would actually teach them both Excel and SPSS. I only used Excel in undergraduate school and then got to graduate school and had no idea how to use SPSS and was expected to know. I started out being behind everyone else and had to teach myself SPSS. I would think more graduate programs would use SPSS over Excel. Nina Dr. Nina L. Tarner Assistant Professor of Psychology HC 219 Department of Psychology Sacred Heart University Fairfield, CT. 06825 (203)371-7915
________________________________ From: Michael Scoles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 11/9/2005 10:20 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: Re: Stats help As a balance between tedious hand calculation and magical stat packages, I've used Excel. It is also more practical than SPSS. Former students have told me that they were surprised to be using statistics in their eventual careers. They are more likely to have access to Excel than SPSS. Even in a graduate-level GLM class, I've found Excel to be very useful. Its built-in routines don't go beyond two-way ANOVA. That's great! Having students analyzing higher-order designs through regression analysis gives them an appreciation of the process. Michael T. Scoles, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Psychology & Counseling University of Central Arkansas Conway, AR 72035 >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/9/2005 8:59 AM >>> What follows doesn't quite address your question, but given that you and others on the list (including me!) have students do the work by hand, you might be interested in the following article appearing in the most recent issue of ToP: Guttmannova, K., Shield, A. L., & Caruso, J. C. (2005). Promoting conceptual understanding of statistics: Definitional versus computational formulas. ToP, 32, 251-253. The authors question the teaching of computational formulas given that instructional data analyses as well and actual analyses of data are mostly done with statistical programs. Miguel -- Miguel Roig, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Psychology Notre Dame Div., St. John's College St. John's University 300 Howard Avenue Staten Island, NY 10301 (718) 390-4513 Fax: (718) 442-3612 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://facpub.stjohns.edu/~roigm -------------- Original message -------------- Hi everyone, I've been offered a section of Intermediate Statistics at one of the CSUs. I have taught the intro course, including one-way ANOVA and simple regression, for about 8 years. I took a decently taught ANOVA course and very poorly taught course in Regression & Correlation in graduate school. Once upon a time I could do a two-level factorial ANOVA by hand. So I am looking for a recommendation for a good text with sufficient practice problems (that's the way I teach. I will also want them to do work by hand before we use SPSS). CSU may have a book picked out (Howell is the one on my sample syllabus) but I'd like to know what alternatives exist. Also, for my own sake, as I intend to spend part of the winter break refreshing my skills in this area. I learn/remember best by doing, so I really appreciate recommendations of books (and online sources for that matter) that provide actual practice problems. Thanks and good luck to everyone finishing the term. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College et alia --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
