Neither you nor I would "test normally on some standardized tests" if we had
been through what the McMartin children went through in their abusive and
endless interrogations by police, parents, and CII.

Paul Okami
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Dougan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <tips@acsun.frostburg.edu>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: Satanic abuse scandal


> At 10:54 AM 1/13/2006, you wrote:
>
>
> >Annette Taylor, Ph. D. wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>I'm not so sure of that, at least not directly. In fact, I am not aware
> >>of any
> >>largely popularized cases of actual 'satanic' abuse. Mostly it is just
plain
> >>old sexual abuse. If you look at the most popularized cases in the US
> >>(McMartin
> >>and the other one in CA whose name is the abuser falls prey to a senior
> >>moment),
> >>and I have to admit I have not heard of any big ones recently, then I
don't
> >>believe religion played a part.
> >In the McMartin case, in spite of being the longest criminal case in
> >history, there were no convictions of abuse of any type.  While 'not
> >guilty' is not the same as 'innocent', I thought that it was a case in
> >which the main culprits were the overzealous interviewers who
> >(inadvertantly) manipulated the testimony of young children.
>
> I friend of mine was a grad student in clinical at UCLA, and did some
> clinical work with some of the McMartin kids.  He was pretty confident
that
> *something* had occurred because the children just didn't test normally on
> some standardized measures.  He was also pretty clear that the prosecution
> had failed to prove its case.
>
> -- Jim
>
>
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