Now that I have finished deleting over 40 messages, most of which had to do with spanking, abuse, Europe (is that somewhere near Canada?), and the blaming of someone from somewhere at some point in time, I have decided to self-flagellate until the posts stop. Ouch, Jeff P.S. This hurts me more than it hurts you. -- Jeffry P. Ricker, Ph.D. Office Phone: (480) 423-6213 9000 E. Chaparral Rd. FAX Number: (480) 423-6298 Psychology Department [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scottsdale Community College Scottsdale, AZ 85256-2626 "The truth is rare and never simple." Oscar Wilde "No one can accept the fundamental hypotheses of scientific psychology and be in the least mystical." Knight Dunlap