I agree. I just graded a midterm exam (5 chapters) in Abnormal. I did the
idea where I allowed them a 3X5 notecard with whatever they needed on it.
You should have seen how small some of the writing was! Amazing. I also gave
them a study guide with vocabulary and key concepts for the exam. I gave
them choices of what questions to answer on the essay and listing questions
(for example, choose 2 out of 3 to answer). Well, I had 7 A's, 5 B's, 2 C's
and 2 F's. One student who is a PA student here and very anxious about his
grades, got a C. Even with being able to bring his own notes! What that
tells me is that he is not able to feret out the concepts from the lectures
and text. And he is in big trouble if he can't do that in college.

Molly Straight, MA
Adjunct Lecturer of Psychology
Alderson-Broaddus College
Philippi, WV
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Annette Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: extra credit studying?


> Well, I am bound to get a bunch of negative feedback for my
> highly unpopular stance I am about to take--and have in the past.
>
> Maybe those who are trying really, really hard and just not getting
> it are among those maybe have selected the wrong path for them in
> life--i.e., perhaps they would be better off in a more technical
> program.
>
> This is not to be pejorative but college is not for everyone.
> There is a certain amount of ability to think in the abstract that
> is required and expected and assumed to be present in those who have
> completed college. That is what it is all about. most of my students
> who try and try and try and just can't do it are those who just can't
> do the abstract work.
>
> I would kindly suggest that perhaps they need to reassess their
> goals/plans and paths for achieving those.  Personally, I have two
> step-daughters, both of whom have AA level degrees in nursing (both
> with RNs) and both are VERY happy with what they are doing in life
> and both are make tons more money than I am.....so i want to emphasize
> that it is not a negative put down that someone is not 'college material'.
>
> for psych majors, who largely are drawn to the major because they like
> to "help" people there are a myriad of technical professions in the
> medical field that can provide an excellent outlet for such ambitions
> and goals, without the need for a 4-year degree.
>
> but honestly, if they are really trying and just can't do it, then
> I think the bottom line is they need to reassess all their options
> rather than think about extra credit, etc.
>
> annette
>
>
>
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Linda Walsh wrote:
>
> > Dear Tipsters,
> > I'm once again looking for something to help students who truly seem to
be
> > trying but not succeeding in class. After Test 1 we spent a good deal of
time
> > talking about study techniques and self-testing, but test 2 did not show
much
> > improvement. I have a vague recollection of either a TOP article or TIPS
entry
> > on someone's "extra credit" assignment which, as I recall, included
turning in
> > detailed notes on lecture, book, and study questions etc. for the
remainder of
> > the semester, never missing another class, and other "perfect" study
skill
> > behavior. Does this sound familiar to any of you before I hit the
databases?
> > Linda Walsh
> > University of Northern Iowa
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
>
> Annette Taylor, Ph. D.
> Department of Psychology E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> "Education is one of the few things a person
> is willing to pay for and not get."
> -- W. L. Bryan
>
>
>

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