I used to look at drafts, but it got to a point where I thought most students were taking advantage (i.e., throwing something together only to then have me organize and revise their work). BUT, I also am interested in teaching writing. What I have gone to is a series of papers throughout the course of the semester so that they can use the comments from previous papers to work on subsequent papers. I think in a way, this may actually model the development of "real" writing across the years. -S
======================================================== Steven M. Specht, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology Department of Psychology Utica College Utica, NY 13502 (315) 792-3171 monkeybrain-collagist.blogspot.com "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." Martin Luther King Jr. On Feb 3, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Marc Carter wrote: > > Call me crazy, but I always *require* at least one draft -- otherwise I'm not > really teaching writing, it seems to me. They won't use feedback on one > assignment to improve another, so I do a whole series of ideas, feedback, > initial references, feedback, annotated outline, feedback, draft, feedback, > and sometimes another draft with feedback. This helps avoid the > bought-paper, and I feel like it teaches them how to write. > > But the biggest classes I do this with are 20. :) > > m > > -- > Marc Carter, PhD > Associate Professor and Chair > Department of Psychology > College of Arts & Sciences > Baker University > -- > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Shearon, Tim [mailto:tshea...@collegeofidaho.edu] >> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 4:05 PM >> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) >> Subject: RE: [tips] Please check my paper BEFORE you grade it >> >> >> Miguel, et al: >> I do understand that some of us have lighter "student loads" >> and that not everyone can do so but I do make that offer to >> everyone. Here is why- I don't think it means you have to >> read the paper twice! You've already seen it and thus the >> second read is less "dense" and full of errors. I basically >> give a "window" for each course during which they can turn in >> drafts. In addition to getting better papers the second time >> (I make them turn in the first paper with the suggestions/etc >> when they turn in the final paper) I find that very few >> students actually take advantage of the offer! If memory >> serves, the best and worst writers are often the ones who >> take advantage of it in upper division courses. But I've >> never had more than four or five students in a class turn in >> drafts so, knock on wood, it has not caused me a huge extra >> work load. I suspect some of the workload created is >> dependent on a number of factors including teaching style, >> courses taught, institution, etc. so it is hard to say >> without trying it what the response would be but it works for >> me at this institution. :) Tim >> _______________________________ Timothy O. Shearon, PhD >> Professor, Department of Psychology The College of Idaho >> Caldwell, ID 83605 >> email: tshea...@collegeofidaho.edu >> >> teaching: intro to neuropsychology; psychopharmacology; >> general; history and systems >> >> "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." Dorothy Parker >> ________________________________________ >> From: roig-rear...@comcast.net [roig-rear...@comcast.net] >> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 2:44 PM >> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) >> Subject: Re: [tips] Please check my paper BEFORE you grade it >> >> I usually tell my students who make such requests that it >> would not be fair for me to do it just for her without >> extending the same offer to everyone else. In turn, it would >> not be fair to me to have to read all student papers twice. >> >> >> >> Miguel >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Karl L Wuensch" <wuens...@ecu.edu> >> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" >> <tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu> >> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 4:25:52 PM >> Subject: [tips] Please check my paper BEFORE you grade it >> >> How best to handle the student request that you check her >> paper for errors BEFORE you grade it so she can be sure to >> get a perfect paper when she hands it in later? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Karl W. >> >> --- >> You are currently subscribed to tips as: roig-rear...@comcast.net. >> To unsubscribe click here: >> http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13482.917fac06d4daae681dabfe > 964ca8c74e&n=T&l=tips&o=8283 >> or send a blank email to >> leave-8283-13482.917fac06d4daae681dabfe964ca8c...@fsulist.fros >> tburg.edu >> >> >> --- >> >> You are currently subscribed to tips as: >> tshea...@collegeofidaho.edu<mailto:tshea...@collegeofidaho.edu>. >> >> To unsubscribe click here: >> http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13545.bae00fb8b4115786ba5dbb > b67b9b177a&n=T&l=tips&o=8286 >> >> (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the >> line is broken) >> >> or send a blank email to >> leave-8286-13545.bae00fb8b4115786ba5dbbb67b9b1...@fsulist.fros >> tburg.edu<mailto:leave-8286-13545.bae00fb8b4115786ba5dbbb67b9b >> 1...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> >> >> >> --- >> You are currently subscribed to tips as: marc.car...@bakeru.edu. >> To unsubscribe click here: >> http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72 > a2d17c90e1&n=T&l=tips&o=8289 >> or send a blank email to >> leave-8289-13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c9...@fsulist.fros > tburg.edu >> > > The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto > ("e-mail") is sent by Baker University ("BU") and is intended to be > confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. > The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures > acts or other legal rules. 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