On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 11:09:02 -0800, Rick Froman wrote:
>Mike Palij said:
>>I admit that I do not understand what Rick is saying below.  If one 
>>defines ideology in cognitive terms representing concepts and relationships
>>among them as well as evaluations (e.g., White-Good/Black-Bad), I don't 
>>understand how one cannot identify the events or experiences
>>that gave rise to these concepts and evaluations.
>
>RF: Remember, my issue is not with "ideology" but "choice". If events or 
>experiences "give rise" to concepts and evaluations, they are not chosen.

I still don't understand what Rick is talking but it is starting to dawn
on me that we might have fundamentally different conceptions about
what choice and decision-making are.  A fairly standard definition of
choice, going back to rat studies in T-mazes is that when a person or
an animal is given two or more response options, they engage in one
of them.  A rat may turn left or right equally often if not reinforced
for turning in a particular direction but as soon as it is reinforced for
turning left or right (or some sequence of turning left or right), the
rat will go from making each response 50% of the time to one that
tries to maximize the likelihood that it will receive a reinforcement.

Ideologies can be thought of as theoretical frameworks that help to
organize and make sense of the world -- selecting one over the 
other might be a random process or the result of "nature","nurture",
or the "interaction of nature and nurture".  Choosing to vote for
a Democrat relative to a Republican, for a communist relative to
a fascist, etc., all represent the selection of one option over the
other.  

It seems to me that Rick is not talking about selecting or preferring
one option relative to others but I don't really know what it is he
saying that choice is if it is not this.

-Mike Palij
New York University
[email protected]






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