This brief piece may be relevant to the Mike P-Mike S interchange about 
rebutting conspiracy theories.  I suspect the outcomes are difficult to predict 
in any given circumstance, but I do not share Mike S's point that providing 
evidence will never backfire.  I don't think the research on biased 
assimilation and attitude polarization supports that claim.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/04/28/nyhan.birther.truth/index.html?hpt=Sbin

...Scott



Scott O. Lilienfeld, Ph.D.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Palij [mailto:m...@nyu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:02 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Cc: Mike Palij
Subject: Re: [tips] When Prophecy Fails, 2011 Version

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 23:23:24 -0700, Michael Sylvester wrote:
>My take on this is that if some people demand evidence,then prviding
>evidence will not hurt.

I think you miss the point and did not watch the clip from "The Last Word";
see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVG772L1v_k
As Obama mentioned in his press conference yesterday, there are still going to 
be people who will think that he was not born in the United States and no 
amount of evidence will convince them otherwise.  When confronted with 
falsifying evidence they will ignore it, try to change the focus of discussion, 
and evade attempts to address the issue.  If we are trying to teach critical 
thinking skills to our students, we really need to show how to debunk nonsense 
such as the birther issue.  I suggest that one gives their students a project 
where they have to verify that a person was born in Hawaii and what sorts of 
evidence would be used to support such an assertion (Note:  states have 
different standards for records such as birth certificate and Hawaii makes 
publicly available the "short form" of a person's birth and maintains the "long 
form" private -- the short form was released years ago but birthers refused to 
accept it as evidence and now that the long form has been released there should 
no longer be any questions).  One starting point for such an exercise might be 
this news article:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-hawaii-governor-obama-birth-certificate-20110427,0,247000.story

A more relevant question is why is there any doubt at all?  Where is the 
evidence that he was born elsewhere?  What is it's legitimacy?  One ironic 
thing about the false controversy about where Obama was born is that of the two 
major candidates, only Obama was actually born in the United States -- John 
McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone.
There has been some controversy of whether he was actually born in the Panama 
Canal zone which was under U.S. control but few have seriously promoted this as 
an objection to McCain's candidacy.  For one view of this matter, see:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/05/john_mccains_birthplace.html

>The Donald perpective reminds me of Ronald Reagan's TRUST BUT VERIFY.

Trump reminds me of many things but it would be rude to express them here. This 
is truly a case of where a person believes that any publicity, even if it makes 
them look like a fool, is good publicity.

>I am more concerned about people who doubt the holocaust .

I am also but to ignore the popular delusions promoted by conservatives and the 
Republicans can put us and our civil liberties at risk.  Of possible relevance 
to some on Tips, consider the results from a poll of Republicans in Mississippi 
earlier this month that had as its focus support for potential Republican 
candidates for the U.S. presidency.  However, the real news was not how the 
candidates stacked up but how the Republicans answered a specific question.  
Quoting from a blog entry on the poll:

|We asked voters on this poll whether they think interracial marriage
|should be legal or illegal- 46% of Mississippi Republicans said it
|should be illegal to just 40% who think it should be legal. For the
|most part there aren't any huge divides in how voters view the
|candidates or who they support for the nomination based on their
|attitudes about interracial marriage but there are a few exceptions.
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2011/04/barbour-bryant-lead-in-mississippi.html

The pollsters didn't see this as a significant point but readers thought 
otherwise, as reflected in this Salon article:
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/?story=/politics/war_room/2011/04/07/poll_mississippi_interracial_marriage

Tolerance of diverse and opposing viewpoints should be maintained but one 
really has to ask how long one has to put up with assertions and beliefs that 
have been falsified?  In this sense, denying the existence of the Holocaust or 
denying that Obama was born in the U.S. are just delusions that are resistant 
to feedback, evidence, and rational discussion.
That such believers are put into positions of power in business and government 
should make all of us concerned with how to deal with such people.

-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu



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