I think the evidence points to the fact that what was called (or translated?) 
as “bell” was not indicative of the hand bell we see pictured in textbooks but 
was instead what we would call today a “buzzer” (at least where I am from – 
descriptors like this probably vary regionally). This does make a bit of a 
difference because whereas a bell of the type often pictured would make a 
fairly discrete sound (that would take some time to fade), both a metronome and 
a buzzer can sustain the stimulus presentation until the delivery of the US 
which would work better for the delay conditioning procedure where the onset of 
the CS precedes but continues until the delivery of the US.

Rick

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From: Christopher Green [mailto:chri...@yorku.ca]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:57 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: [tips] Pavlov and bells











Pavlov's (1927) CONDITIONED REFLEXES: AN INVESTIGATION OF THE =
PHYSIOLOGICAL ACTIVITY OF THE CEREBRAL CORTEX:

p. 27: "With another dog the loud buzzing of an electric bell set going =
5 to 10 seconds after administration of food failed to establish a =
conditioned alimentary reflex even after 374 combinations,"

p. 34: "A [p. 34] dog has two primary alimentary conditioned stimuli =
firmly established, one to the sound of a metronome and the other to the =
buzzing of an electric bell."

p. 145: "There were used, for example, in one case the four tones C, D, =
E, F of one octave; and in another case the four stimuli were made up of =
a noise, two different tones and the sound of a bell."


Chris
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York University
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Canada

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On 2013-09-26, at 5:23 PM, sbl...@ubishops.ca<mailto:sbl...@ubishops.ca> wrote:


On 26 Sep 2013 at 17:07, Christopher Green wrote:

=20

Thomas, R. K. (1997). Correcting some Pavlovian regarding "Pavlov's

bell" and Pavlov's "mugging." American Journal of Psychology , 110,

115-125.


Read it, consider his evidence, and then get back to me.



Stephen





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Professor of Psychology, Emeritus

Bishop's University

Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada

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