Kiryas Joel would have been better in terms of Yiddish speakers, but it's 
upstate (see Bruce, Lenny on who is Jewish).

On Dec 22, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Mike Palij wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 07:39:42 -0800, Paul Brandon wrote: 
> >Because hardly anyone outside of Williamsburg says that any more?
> 
> Really?  Who knew that Virginia had such a large Yiddish speaking 
> population!?!
> I believe that when most people hear of "Williamsburg" they think of
> a place in Virginia, as represented in this website that promotes tourism
> there:
> http://www.visitwilliamsburg.com/?gclid=CJeo1biqxLsCFSLxOgodwzQAbg
>  
> But perhaps Paul is referring to the place in Virginia. A quick internet 
> search
> shows that indeed there long has been a Jewish presence in the Old Dominion,
> with about 6,000 serving for the Confederacy during the Civil War; see:
> http://books.google.com/books?id=5P-Oyqu8MuoC&pg=PA305&lpg=PA305&dq=%22jews+the+confederacy%22&source=bl&ots=fMGCz2Y2PF&sig=gUIDviAuGceYYcVYO2tE7ROk5s8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=UBO3UsTpOpDpkQfav4GIAQ&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22jews%20the%20confederacy%22&f=false
>  
> and
> http://books.google.com/books?id=UtiEY4s9n9IC&pg=PA203&dq=%22jews+the+confederacy%22++williamsburg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5BS3UpLfDcyskAeokIGABQ&ved=0CEUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22jews%20the%20confederacy%22%20%20williamsburg&f=false
>   
> 
> But -- and I'm just guessing here -- perhaps Paul was referring to
> another Williamsburg?  Another quick internet search identifies a
> Williamsburg in Brooklyn, NY but this seems to be a "hipster"
> haven the likes of which Stephen Colbert makes fun of.  For
> contemporary Williamsburg, consider the following websites:
> http://www.asanet.org/footnotes/mayjun13/brooklyn_0513.html  
> and
> http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20130521/williamsburg/bridge-and-tunnel-poser-hipsters-clog-williamsburg-bars-locals-complain
>   
> and
> http://brooklyn.about.com/od/eventsthingstodo/tp/10-Best-Things-To-Do-In-Williamsburg-Brooklyn.htm
>   
> and
> http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20131011/east-williamsburg/fdny-shuts-down-hipster-party-boat-newtown-creek
>   
> and
> http://observer.com/term/williamsburg/  
> and...
> well you should get the idea.
> 
> Yiddish speakers still live in Williamsburg but their number is diminished.
> Here is the Wikipedia entry on Williamsburg, Brooklyn, NY and it
> provides some history as well as it's current state as a hipster haven:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williamsburg,_Brooklyn
> 
> Wikipedia provides some information on the extent of Yiddish usage and
> here is a quote from the entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish_language  
> :
> 
> |Present U.S. speaker population
> |
> |In the 2000 census, 178,945 people in the United States reported 
> |speaking Yiddish at home. Of these speakers, 113,515 lived in New York 
> |(63.43% of American Yiddish speakers); 18,220 in Florida (10.18%); 
> |9,145 in New Jersey (5.11%); and 8,950 in California (5.00%). The 
> |remaining states with speaker populations larger than 1,000 are 
> |Pennsylvania (5,445), Ohio (1,925), Michigan (1,945), Massachusetts 
> |(2,380), Maryland (2,125), Illinois (3,510), Connecticut (1,710), and 
> |Arizona (1,055). The population is largely elderly: 72,885 of the speakers 
> |were older than 65, 66,815 were between 18 and 64, and only 39,245 
> |were age 17 or lower.[43] In the six years since the 2000 census, the 
> |2006 American Community Survey reflected an estimated 15 percent 
> |decline of people speaking Yiddish at home in the U.S. to 152,515.[44]
> |
> |There are a few predominantly Hasidic communities in the United States
> |in which Yiddish remains the majority language. Kiryas Joel, New York
> |is one such; in the 2000 census, nearly 90% of residents of Kiryas Joel
> |reported speaking Yiddish at home.[45]
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish_language#Present_U.S._speaker_population
> 
> Perhaps  Paul meant the town of Kiryas Joel, mentioned above and
> which has more information provided for it here:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiryas_Joel,_New_York
> 
> But if he had, I would not have had the opportunity to play up
> the Williamsburg, VA vs Williamsburg, NY distinction. ;-)
> Few people understand the weirdness associated with hearing
> "Old Williamsburg" and realizing they're referring to some place
> in Virginia. ;-)
>  
> -Mike Palij
> New York University
> m...@nyu.edu
>  
> On Dec 22, 2013, at 7:42 AM, Mike Palij wrote:
> > The NY Times has an interactive quiz that uses different language/dialect
> > examples to locate where you, dear reader, are geographically more
> > similar or most dissimilate to -- based on the database of response that
> > they have collected. See:
> >  
> > http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/12/20/sunday-review/dialect-quiz-map.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20131222
> >  
> > I wonder why they didn't use "Oy, gevalt!". ;-)
> >  
> > -Mike Palij
> > New York University
> > m...@nyu.edu
> >  
> > P.S. My map:  http://nyti.ms/1cnLBGi

Paul Brandon
Emeritus Professor of Psychology
Minnesota State University, Mankato
pkbra...@hickorytech.net




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