Jim I do think we are all, perhaps, forgetting something about the scene. You reported that you remember the fear in the face and the blood circling. People who watch it without the music, or who are hearing impaired, report that the scene is not very scary. So I am wondering if you are remembering the face but not the thing that seems to have made the scene so effective. I'm just wondering if you do recall the score as well as the face and scene in general or if you sometimes recall the face alone? I honestly don't recall the scene as frightening unless I recall the score as well. :) (If someone else brought this up, apologies, I'm experiencing weird email sequencing today due to server resets - I've clearly gotten several emails out of order). Tim
_______________________________ Timothy O. Shearon, PhD Professor, Department of Psychology The College of Idaho Caldwell, ID 83605 email: tshea...@collegeofidaho.edu teaching: intro to neuropsychology; psychopharmacology; general; history and systems "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." Dorothy Parker ________________________________________ From: Jim Clark [j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca] Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2014 11:52 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Classical versus Vicarious Conditioning of Phobias Hi I too did some searching. Found a fair bit on one- trial avoidance learning, although little with humans. For me the main impression I have of the shower scene is the facial expression of terror, followed closely by the blood circling down the drain. If fear expression spontaneously elicits fear reaction (eg heightened startle in infants?) then it would seem to qualify as ucs. Also classical conditioning allows second-order conditioning even if fear response to expression is learned. Clearly quick learning of fear to facial expression would be of evolutionary value (ie don't need to have expression paired with personal pain). Finally i do not think contemporary psychologists would find CC and associative learning in conflict. Former refers to phenomenon and latter to underlying explanation. Jim Sent from my iPhone --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=34081 or send a blank email to leave-34081-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
