Hi David: Please explain what a Scarr-Rowe interaction is and why it may be a rookie mistake not to take it into account. Your link summary/abstract does not clarify the issue.
I fear that this discussion may be headed into a descending spiral where the label n@zi will be used. Best regards to all. Ken --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kenneth M. Steele, Ph.D. steel...@appstate.edu <mailto:steel...@appstate.edu> Professor Department of Psychology http://www.psych.appstate.edu <http://www.psych.appstate.edu/> Appalachian State University Boone, NC 28608 USA --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > On Jul 25, 2018, at 7:21 PM, David <da...@neverdave.com> wrote: > > > > > > > More troublingly, I'm not seeing any indication that they investigators > accounted for a Scarr-Rowe interaction. Rookie mistake. That interaction > should've been the *first* thing they looked for. Otherwise, as Eric > Turkheimer has argued, they might be better off not estimating "heritability" > at all <http://psycnet.apa.org/record/2011-18633-009>. > > --David Epstein > da...@neverdave.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" > <tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu> > To:"Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" > <tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu> > Sent:Wed, 25 Jul 2018 15:29:27 -0400 > Subject:Re: [tips] The Genetic Theory of Educational Achievement Is about 90% > Horse Manure! > > Household income is incredibly highly skewed. Assuming they obliviously used > a linear coefficient to obtain the 7% figure, it is probably a severe > under-estimate of the true size of the effect. > > Chris > ….. > Christopher D Green > Department of Psychology > York University > Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 > Canada > 43.773897°, -79.503667° > > chri...@yorku.ca <mailto:chri...@yorku.ca> > http://www.yorku.ca/christo <http://www.yorku.ca/christo> > ………………………………... > > On Jul 25, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Michael Palij <m...@nyu.edu > <mailto:m...@nyu.edu>> wrote: > > > At least for White Europeans. A masive study using genomic info as a > predictor of educational achievement showed that genes accounted for > only about 11% of the difference in years of education. > > The Scientist Mag has a layperson friendly description of the study > published in the journal "Nature Genetics". See: > https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/genes-explain-about-11-percent-of-differences-in-years-of-education-64552 > > <https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/genes-explain-about-11-percent-of-differences-in-years-of-education-64552> > > There are links in the article to additional sources. > > So, I guess this pretty much undermines "g" or single factor theories > of intelligence (assuming intelligence drives educational achievement > as certain theorists assert). In addition, household income accounts > for only 7% of the variance in the differences which some might consider > a unexpected low amount. I guess this all goes to show that your > genetic ancestry (sorry Galton) nor wealth/poverty are the most > important factors in academic acheivemnt, like getting a Ph.D. > or other advanced degree. > > Now, I just hope the results are replicable. ;-) > > -Mike Palij > New York University > m...@nyu.edu <mailto:m...@nyu.edu> > > P.S. To Miguel: don't worry about the tipos. ;-) > > > > > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to tips as: steel...@appstate.edu > <mailto:steel...@appstate.edu>. > > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13524.94845a3ed9806f1cef14973830dd8c39&n=T&l=tips&o=52578 > > <http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13524.94845a3ed9806f1cef14973830dd8c39&n=T&l=tips&o=52578> > (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) > > or send a blank email to > leave-52578-13524.94845a3ed9806f1cef14973830dd8...@fsulist.frostburg.edu > <mailto:leave-52578-13524.94845a3ed9806f1cef14973830dd8...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> > > > > --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@mail-archive.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=52579 or send a blank email to leave-52579-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
