I agree with John. Defining SLH-DSA for use in environments like telco networks is fine with me.
For that reason I suport the adoption.
 
Ciao
Hannes
 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Juli 2025 um 09:44
Von: "John Mattsson" <[email protected]>
An: "TLS List" <[email protected]>
Betreff: [TLS] Re: Second WG Adoption Call for Use of SLH-DSA in TLS 1.3

Hi,

I strongly support adoption of this draft. I find support of SLH-DSA in TLS 1.3 very useful. With many governments and organizations forbidding use of standalone ML-DSA, SLH-DSA is required. With governments requiring migration of all existing _deployments_ by 2030-2035, the need for standards is urgent. There is absolutely no time to wait, migration of PKI often takes a decade. This is very high priority.

 

Hybrid signatures are not mature with both standards and implementations lacking, there are also a lot of different standards for hybrid signatures, which makes things worse. With migration of PKI taking significant time, I see standalone ML-DSA and standalone SLH-DSA as the only choices.

 

For many infrastructure use cases of TLS/DTLS/QUIC, the performance of the initial handshake is not very important. OpenSSL 3.5 LTS already has support of SLH-DSA.

 

I think Tiru's statement "SLH-DSA is intended to be leveraged in 3GPP deployments, particularly for long-lived connections" is correct. The use of TLS 1.3 in determined by the TLS profile in TS 33.210. Unless explicitly forbidden, support and use of all PQC algorithms is OPTIONAL/MAY. Algorithms can be used in 3GPP deployments without having been mentioned in 3GPP specifications. And given that ANSSI/BSI/EUCC forbid use of standalone ML-DSA, I don't see any other outcome of the 3GPP work than that both standalone ML-DSA and standalone SLH-DSA will be used. 3GPP has a long security practice of always requiring support of two different algorithms with different constructions for everything. I would strongly expect the same thing here.

 

I am not particularly fond of LSs, but the telecom sector has already sent one LS to TLS WG, if SLH-DSA is not processing quickly, I would expect more..., you have been warned…

https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/2002/

 

Cheers,

John

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